Return-Path: Received: from spamgaab.compuserve.com ([149.174.217.145]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52269U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 23:52:23 -0500 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spamgaab.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.7) id XAA07102 for lancair.list@olsusa.com; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 23:57:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 23:57:05 -0500 From: Lynda Frantz Subject: 1 or 2 COMs Sender: Lynda Frantz To: "INTERNET:lancair.list@olsusa.com" Message-ID: <200001022357_MC2-9322-C1B2@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >Couldn't disagree more with Jim Franz about needing only one com radio.< I guess I had one too many new year's grogs and was too outspoken. But the mail list seemed a bit slow over the holiday. Nonetheless, I always get lots of disagreement when I bring up the 1 or 2 COM issue. I would not suggest something without having tried it first. I fly IFR with 1 COM and a portable in my Lancair. When I give flight reviews, I rarely see students using the 2nd COM and occasionally see them miss ATC calls when they do. Did you ever notice that both COMs on most light aircraft are wired to the same radio bus? Not much redundancy there. Regarding single pilot IFR operations retrieving ATIS while at the same time monitoring ATC; this is a procedure that is common but being discouraged by experienced instructors and FAA examiners. The proper procedure is to request to go off freq to retreive the ATIS. In this way you are more likely to get the proper barometric pressure etc. and you could not possibly miss or copy an ATC clearance incorrectly because ATC agreed not to issue any. I had a hard time planning my IFR panel deviating from the traditional stack. I just had to put in a DME though. I now realize that with GPS the DME was mostly a waste of $$ and panel space and would not do it again. Oops, there I go again proposing trashing another standard IFR panel stack component. Keep in mind that times are a-changing. The old audio selector panel, 2 COM, 2 NAV, DME, ADF, Marker Beacon and transponder stack are no longer the standard or even optimum for IFR flying these days. Corporate and airline operators are already receiving taxi and flight plan clearances via digital means at just about all of the large airports eliminating much of the voice chatter. ATIS retrieval is via data links at even medium sided airports. GPS will continue to become more IFR significant especially for non precision approaches at small airports and for enroute navigating. ADFs are being phased out. Plan your panel accordingly. It's OK to deviate from the standard stack. And as I proposed previously, consider only one panel mounted COM leaving $$$ and room for more important equipment to take you beyond Y2K. Just for the record my IFR stack includes 1 COM, 1 NAV, 1 GPS, 1 DME, 1 marker beacon receiver and 1 transponder. All of these are powered off the Radio bus which has its normal feed from the power distribution bus and an alternate feed from the esential bus with an isolation feature from the power distribution bus. My second COM is a battery powered hand held. Happy New Year, Jim Frantz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>