Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #41626
From: terrence o'neill <troneill@charter.net>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Lancair's Down
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:36:15 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Jeff,
    Regarding the Nebraska 320, except for a possible control system malfunction, of which there is so far no indication, engine failure is not the 'final cause' of an aircraft 'spinning in'.  It is loss of control caused by the pilot pulling (inadvertantly, because without an AOA he can't see he's causing a stall) the wing's AOA higher than its stall AOA.  Airfoills stall at an angle, at any speed.  Hands-off, a wing will remain at its trimmed AOA, regardless of the plane's attitude.  So it appears, at this point, that the pilot stalled his wing, therey giving up control of the aircraft and becoming a reluctant passenger, too low to recover.  The Lancair has an excellent L/D, and should provide some gliding options for emergency landing sites, under control all the way to the ground, if the stall AOA is not exceeded.  So, to beat a dead horse on this, why after 100 years of flight, are we still not using a stall-vane indicator that a pilot can easily reference -- outside the cockpit or heads-up -- for just such a situation?  It is so sad and depressing to lose friends , anguish families, and waste such fine machinery, with thousands of loving hours invested ... when stalls, prerequisite to spins, are avoidable.  How can this 'lacking AOA info' be remedied? Doesn't this deserve serious attention?
Terrence O'Neill
L235/320
N211AL
(wiring the glass panel now in progress)
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:14 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: Lancair's Down

In a message dated 4/16/2007 8:05:53 PM Central Daylight Time, kevin@airforcemechanical.com writes:
Both seam to be engine failures. So sad....
My condolences to the families and friends.
Don't be so certain about both being engine failures. The 320 in Nebraska does not say it is an engine failure just that the egnine slowed then speeded up and then the pilot spun it in. Conclusion?
 
The Legacy crashed on its first flight. There were reports of erratic engine operation from eyewitnesses but the same was true of Dave Hickman's crash last year and the Chelton data in Hickman's accident showed the fuel flow was dialed up so high (greater than 50 gph) the engine could not run. Remember you must set up your fuel system correctly to operate safely before first flight. TCM has a service bulletin on this.
 
Don't jump to conclusions before the evidence is in.
 
Regards,
 
Jeff Edwards
LIVP N619SJ




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