X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 10 [X] Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 01:50:04 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web54301.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([206.190.49.111] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.8) with SMTP id 1986989 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 19:03:21 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.190.49.111; envelope-from=randylsnarr@yahoo.com Received: (qmail 23081 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Apr 2007 23:02:29 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=s3HIb7qzt0QDZsAtCqL1F6iMDjuJJVZUPP2YJ5doY0Z2cJaZ3EwiVYVtxXvpd/bFkmZGk0e6RwVMe8guzWNa/JWphPJVU4ngnBrFwcXhzXeIysf4Tn33tlHZ0KE6YsHFTdv8YJBdZU6J4sx01CeiRUUqnrl/VKrMUQ/p0slYuPU= ; X-Original-Message-ID: <20070415230229.23079.qmail@web54301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: u9l1zGUVM1mhc4unVwenMOQy83JpqAem9Huz4VLykwCcfgyKs0pOv76CD7V499.xak2kHkCqaMQMfywRFdzH59I7zT_0bhhIIXBvlFhx5evajgO62jw- Received: from [67.50.40.154] by web54301.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 16:02:29 PDT X-Original-Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 16:02:29 -0700 (PDT) From: randy snarr Subject: Gear Trouble X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yesterday on departure out of North Las Vegas I could not get the gear to come up. At first I thought it may by my airspeed squat swith. After speeding the airplane up to 140 that was obviously not the problem. I have pressure gauges in the airplane but with everything going on I did not notice what they were reading. After a few minutes with the gear switch in the up position the gear pump came on and up they came. About the same time the low pressure gear hydraulic gauge filled up with fluid and squirt on my unsuspecting passenger. The 1hr 33 minute flight home was uneventful except for an occasional burp from the gear pump keeping the pressure up. One thing that was different was that I rarely ever have the pump burp in flight. It did it maybe 6 times on the way home. Upon arrival home, I dropped the gear with the dump valve and pressured up the system with the gear pump and landed with no trouble whilst my passenger held a rag on the face of the bleeding gauge. The day before, we flew to Nevada at 14,000. We were at that altitude for around an hour. What I think may have happened is we cooled the system significantly at altitude, decended and landed in much warmer temps and left the airplane on the ramp in the sun. With the airplane parked, I believe the down side of the system pressured up with the airplane warming in the sun on the ramp. I believe it pressured up the down side so much that it exceeded the limits of the 1200 psi gauge which failed shortly after take off.( I have ordered the 2000 psi gauge to match the gear up side) I theorize that the down side pressured up and either bled over the the up side or the up side pressured up with the down side opening up the high pressure curcuit and not allowing the pump to run. Looking back, I should have immediately cycled the dump valve after looking at the pressure gauge to see if relieving the pressure would get the gear moving. Maybe there should be some sort of pressure relief system added. I have seen the gear hyd pressures go up 1000 psi when pulling the airplane out of a cool hangar and out into the hot sun and left for 20 minutes or so. Maybe that is what happened. The gear was dropped with the system cold. The down side pressures up to 600 or so while cold. Land the airplane and both sides pressure up 1300 or so in the heat.That would put the down side at near 2000 and the up side beyond the shut off point for the pump. That could explain what happened. Chris Z and others, Ideas, thoughts??? Randy L. Snarr 235/320 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com