X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 50 [XX] Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 21:32:01 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp111.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.198.210] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.8) with SMTP id 1970793 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 06 Apr 2007 10:45:18 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.142.198.210; envelope-from=lorn@dynacomm.ws Received: (qmail 83793 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2007 14:44:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.64?) (lorn@ameritech.net@69.209.155.108 with plain) by smtp111.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Apr 2007 14:44:30 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 1E1vdQcVM1mnCBRIJ59Eee2_3arl08VLPee2pXc3sgiXEEcVzvXVkJLO97W8zCzMM.qBjZ5EUQHS1AByGu8Prv.g0csa_tPQciPz_DpTDulh5cNlWhA- In-Reply-To: <8C7092BC20679AF-2F0-F907@mblk-d46.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C7092BC20679AF-2F0-F907@mblk-d46.sysops.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed X-Original-Message-Id: X-Original-Cc: "terrence o'neill" , John Violette Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lorn H. Olsen Subject: Re: Constant speed props X-Original-Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 10:44:29 -0400 X-Original-To: Lancair List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Terrence, Below is a letter that I posted to the Lancair mailing list 2 years ago to the day. The only thing that has changed is that I now have about 600 hours on the prop. I had an engine overspeed more than a year ago that was caused by a crank plug coming loose. The Aero Composites prop had no problems with the overspeed. Many other props would have had to be sent off for inspection. Lorn > On Apr 6, 2005, at 9:53 PM, mquinns@aol.com wrote: > >> Lorn, >> I am considering props for my 360 and was told you have an >> Aerocomposites prop on your 320 (360?). > > Yes. > >> Could you tell me if your aircraft uses the long engine mount or >> short? > > Short. > >> Does the prop spinner require modifications to the cowl? > > No. > >> Is the prop 68 inch diameter? > > According to Hartzell at > > http://www.hartzellpropellers.com/kitplane/index_kitplane.htm > > you can see that the Lancair 320 is supposed to use the 70" prop. > When I first talked to Aero Composites they asked me what diameter > I wanted the prop to be. Apparently they had the ability to vary > the diameter somewhat. We both agreed that 70" (the same size as > the Hartzell) would be best. I got the impression, while talking to > them, that a larger diameter is better, as long as the ground > clearance is satisfactory. > > Hartzell's sight for the 360 lists both 68" and 72" for the 180 hp > and only a 72" for the 200 hp 360s. Take a look at the Aero > Composites site at: > > http://www.aerocomposites.com/index.cfm? > fuseaction=home.viewPage&page_id=E36FDA21-5004-D739-A5792799EC7B5445 > > for the model that is right for your plane and engine combination. > With the Aero Composites prop and the 360 engine you can go with > either 2 or 3 blades. > > To not leave anyone out, there is also the Whirlwind Airboat > Propeller Co. Whirlwind is starting to make aircraft propellers. > They cost less and only weigh 28 lbs. I saw one at the KOBZ airport > in Georgia. A current problem with their constant speed prop is > that it has to go back to the factory every 250 hours for > inspection. They should be better in the future. > > http://www.whirlwindaviation.com/ > >> Do you have any advice after making the choice to go with this prop? > > It is a great prop. I now have about 300 hours on the prop and my > leading edge looks like new. It doesn't have one scratch on it. The > nickel leading edge really works. > >> Were there any weight and balance issues caused by lower weight of >> the prop? > > Originally my planes CG was to far aft. The lighter prop didn't > help at all. I have solved the CG problem using 3 different > techniques. > > 1) I have a "Harmonic Dampener" that weighs 12 lbs attached to my > flywheel. This doesn't hurt at all. Scott Krueger also has one. > Besides adding weight to the front of the plane, the dampener > smoothes the engine. This additional weight moves the CG forward > 1/2". If you are interested, they are made by: > > Mark Landoll > 1205 Red bud Lane > Newcastle, OK 73065 > > 405-392-3847 > > I paid $387 for mine a couple of years ago. > > 2) I had my battery moved from behind the baggage compartment to > behind the passenger seat. > > 3) I carry about 20 lbs of tools in front of the passengers feet. > > My current CG is 58.6" behind the aft end of the propeller spinner. > This converts to 24.1" using the forward face of the firewall. > I am still pretty far aft. > >> Thanks for your help. >> >> MARK QUINN > > In summary, the Aero Composites prop is the best prop that I have > ever flown behind. I believe that it has increased my top speed by > about 5 knots. In the Redmond 2004 100 mile race, I came in first > in the 320 class. In the Sun 'N Fun 2004 100 mile race, I came in > second in the 320 class. To bad it was cancelled this year. > > Good luck with your decision and feel free to call if there are any > other questions or problems. > > Sincerely, > Lorn > -- > Lorn H. 'Feathers' Olsen, MAA, DynaComm, Corp. > 248-345-0500, mailto:lorn@dynacomm.ws > LNC2, O-320-D1F, 1,000 hrs, N31161, Y47, SE Michigan -- Lorn H. 'Feathers' Olsen, MAA, DynaComm, Corp. 248-345-0500, mailto:lorn@dynacomm.ws LNC2, FB90/92, O-320-D1F, 1,300 hrs, N31161, Y47, SE Michigan