X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 10 [X] Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 14:34:23 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from an-out-0708.google.com ([209.85.132.240] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.8) with ESMTP id 1964850 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 13:28:22 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.132.240; envelope-from=jffisher@gmail.com Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c34so1626886anc for ; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 10:27:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=UG479OG6xayJTIYw5Y9qHxOwywCu+Iiswnjiof9PXwSF72oGsfCL4stP3QswCiRBP78ZjdJc9UnJyzZNvlG0VRWrC2IXxBMfa/6qH675/dedtmBoaEBGkqxufrBAOwMYJIBD2oHT2a4m2xz4uefHkAL5QCv3vMQZRMTICAadg+M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=eDfZHT9OD4qKNG/F8Mo3FWHyHTn7drhpAst35ONzdatHODqJFOCE1D7mhjEeGAtQMZWHZfmUjixN//L+J9n6aWiQJW7fdEvmHsMb3w6IheTtn6vshBl0idPprkw9a5nKeNdYVtqk7mlVuJnAZFkMHAx3pwb02TBBjr95JcKU+Cc= Received: by 10.100.136.13 with SMTP id j13mr4611587and.1175621255168; Tue, 03 Apr 2007 10:27:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.124.8 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Apr 2007 10:27:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 12:27:35 -0500 From: "Jeremy Fisher" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Indicated Airspeed Error In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_12081_101890.1175621255113" References: ------=_Part_12081_101890.1175621255113 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Rick, It sounds to me as though you have position error, caused by the position of your static source. It is present on all aircraft, but is usually kept minimal. Being experimental, we have more variation than normal. If so, you have two possible solutions. You can measure the error, which should be repeatable, and apply it as a correction factor. Or you can try moving your static source to see if you can find a better compromise. A small change can make a difference. Have you checked with other ES builders to see if they have the same static source position, and if they have similar errors? Of course they may not know (or want to know if they are showing exceptional performance!). Jerry On 4/3/07, Rick Argente wrote: > > Scott/Rob/Marv, > > Thanks for the responses/suggestions so far! > > It appears that we should inspect/investigate the static side of the > airspeed equation. Maybe water or small bugs or dirt in the static system? > Definitely worth checking very closely... > > While we were flying in close formation, at the same altitude, if > never occurred to us to verify altitude readings. If there were any > significant differences, this would have indicated some sort of problem with > the static port... > > I guess we have our worked cut out for us! > > Thanks again, > Rick > ------=_Part_12081_101890.1175621255113 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Rick,
 
It sounds to me as though you have position error, caused by the position of your static source.  It is present on all aircraft, but is usually kept minimal.  Being experimental, we have more variation than normal.  If so, you have two possible solutions.  You can measure the error, which should be repeatable, and apply it as a correction factor.  Or you can try moving your static source to see if you can find a better compromise.  A small change can make a difference.
 
Have you checked with other ES builders to see if they have the same static source position, and if they have similar errors?  Of course they may not know (or want to know if they are showing exceptional performance!). 
 
Jerry

 
On 4/3/07, Rick Argente <ricargente@cs.com> wrote:
Scott/Rob/Marv,
 
Thanks for the responses/suggestions so far!
 
It appears that we should inspect/investigate the static side of the airspeed equation.  Maybe water or small bugs or dirt in the static system?  Definitely worth checking very closely...
 
While we were flying in close formation, at the same altitude, if never occurred to us to verify altitude readings.  If there were any significant differences, this would have indicated some sort of problem with the static port...  
 
I guess we have our worked cut out for us!
 
Thanks again,
Rick   

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