X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 2 [X] Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:09:43 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web60011.mail.yahoo.com ([209.73.178.74] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.7) with SMTP id 1876533 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:07:49 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.73.178.74; envelope-from=mattreeves@yahoo.com Received: (qmail 29114 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Mar 2007 17:07:03 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=y/b/5oiltg1R88yVg+AzrMwVfvAqyFjsQt9xALBIoGOevAEHxkwwva7f4NVCEUSx3DPk1lVPoQa7ThvC5OuB7ckJIAhX7M+z9/ZSQPtHuVdekpD9uOEwkD2eeV+r6BWGOS0J0K7RSyJ6nsKnYd0fzjFedBTay5r3lgNukFak9W0=; X-YMail-OSG: mqCE528VM1mRAX3xh.I3nV_xW8YQynfrMjElU0g1 Received: from [70.96.122.92] by web60011.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 09:07:02 PST X-Original-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:07:02 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Reeves Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Stupid Pilot, stupid people-- I know the guy who drove into Lake Powell X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-304414768-1172768822=:28942" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Original-Message-ID: <157792.28942.qm@web60011.mail.yahoo.com> --0-304414768-1172768822=:28942 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Who needs any safety equipment? All you have to do is tell your wife where you're going and she'll be there in seconds! ;) Matt (Kidding guys - smile) Walter Atkinson wrote: John: While I agree with the vast majority of what you posted, the paragraph below is not supported by the volume of data that Doug Ritter at "Equipped to Survive" has compiled. The vast majority of ditchings do, in fact, result in the people surviving the ditching. As you correctly point out, however, many drown after having survived the ditching, essentially unhurt. That's what the data shows. I encourage everyone to become familiar with Doug Ritter's work. Among it is the reality that you will leave the airplane with nothing but what's in your pockets at the time. The life raft, life jackets, survival gear, etc., that are in the baggage compartment or on the floor behind the pilot's seat will go to the bottom with the airplane. That, too, is supported by the hard data. Walter On Feb 28, 2007, at 11:46 PM, marv@lancair.net wrote: In spite of what the airliners tell you about a water landing, very few people actually survive. In most small planes, everyone's spines snap just above the pelvis as the lower seat belt holds them back against the seat and as their upper bodies move violently forward as the plane skips and bounces across the surface of the water. Everyone dies. Even at speeds as low as 90, most spines get snapped. If they survive the "landing," the cold water gets 'em. Time of Useful Consciousness (TUC) is only minutes. 30 minutes after a cold water incident, search and rescue goes into recover mode. --------------------------------- Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. --0-304414768-1172768822=:28942 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Who needs any safety equipment?  All you have to do is tell your wife where you're going and she'll be there in seconds!  ;)
 
Matt
 
(Kidding guys - smile)
 


Walter Atkinson <walter@advancedpilot.com> wrote:
John:

While I agree with the vast majority of what you posted, the paragraph below is not supported by the volume of data that Doug Ritter at "Equipped to Survive" has compiled.  The vast majority of ditchings do, in fact, result in the people surviving the ditching.  As you correctly point out, however, many drown after having survived the ditching, essentially unhurt.  That's what the data shows.  I encourage everyone to become familiar with Doug Ritter's work.  Among it is the reality that you will leave the airplane with nothing but what's in your pockets at the time.  The life raft, life jackets, survival gear, etc., that are in the baggage compartment or on the floor behind the pilot's seat will go to the bottom with the airplane.  That, too, is supported by the hard data.

Walter


On Feb 28, 2007, at 11:46 PM, marv@lancair.net wrote:

In spite of what the airliners tell you about a water landing, very few
people actually survive. In most small planes, everyone's spines snap just
above the pelvis as the lower seat belt holds them back against the seat and
as their upper bodies move violently forward as the plane skips and bounces
across the surface of the water. Everyone dies. Even at speeds as low as
90, most spines get snapped. If they survive the "landing," the cold water
gets 'em. Time of Useful Consciousness (TUC) is only minutes. 30 minutes
after a cold water incident, search and rescue goes into recover mode.



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