X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 30 [X] Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:38:42 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from samurai.delionsden.com ([66.150.29.112] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.7) with ESMTPS id 1870340 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:35:17 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.150.29.112; envelope-from=n103md@yahoo.com Received: from bmackey by samurai.delionsden.com with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HLrEc-0003ig-AF; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:34:30 -0500 Received: from 12.146.139.19 ([12.146.139.19]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user bmackey) by www.bmackey.com with HTTP; Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:34:30 -0800 (PST) X-Original-Message-ID: <29324.12.146.139.19.1172540070.squirrel@www.bmackey.com> X-Original-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:34:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: 360 gear door closes before gear retracts From: "bob mackey" X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net X-Original-Cc: "kneaded pleasures" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - samurai.delionsden.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32015 2012] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - yahoo.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Greg: I guess this was the nose gear door that closed, based on the "possible prop strike" comment. The only failure mode that makes sense to me is a sticky sequencer valve. First part of the diagnosis would be to put the airplane on jacks so that an erroneous diagnosis doesn't lead to dropping the airplane on its belly or worse - on your head. Then check that sequence valve to see if it could have stuck in the compressed position while the gear was up. Then when the gear came down it would have had to shove the door out of the way. The pressures are low during transit, so this wouldn't have been much trouble. Then, with the gear down, the door may have closed. On the way back up, the gear would have collided with the closed door and fully pressurized. Probably did some damage to the the gear door, and possibly to the gear and to the hydraulic cylinder mounting points. Was the door still closed when you landed? If so, you could reach inside (carefully!) and tug on the sequencer valve. when it opens, and the hydraulics are powered into the down position, the door should open. ps - "kneaded pleasures"? is that massage therapy or baking? -bob > Don't think I caused this problem but I certainly have to deal with > it - gear door closed before gear retracted in flight - no accident > but could have been if the gear had strongly jammed into retract such > that low pressure on extension might not have been sufficient to permit > extension; possible prop strike. > > Didn't know of this condition until I was safely on the ground - didn't > use the emergency gear extension - nor did I flip the > gear-pressure-release valve - don't think I changed anything from > the careful routines that I have used in dozens of previous flights. > So what might have caused this scenario? What must be done to prevent > it in the future (besides "not flying")? > Thanks for your comments. Greg Nelson