Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #39822
From: John Schroeder <jschroeder@perigee.net>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Wing positive pressure
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 14:37:53 -0500
To: <LML>
Paul & Paul -

The F-105D had a solid, thin wing with the exceptions for fuel lines, hydraulic lines and electrical conduits. Not much air in that wing. Are there formulas for relating the volume of air inside the wing to the lift being produced? It took about 175 KCAS to get the sucker flying with normal fuel. ;-)

I believe the F-104 wing was similar, with the exception that I could almost touch the wingtip with one hand and the fuselage with the other. Darned little air in that wing.

Methinks foolery and mirth are extant here.

Cheers,

John


On Sat, 03 Feb 2007 13:04:15 -0500, <PTACKABURY@aol.com> wrote:

Doubter-Listers:  I think maybe you all haven't thought through Paul  the
Great's deep insight as he revealed the true nature of the mystery of  flight, to
wit:  air inside the wing pushes up and the plane rises!   Now before you all
spend countless hours thinking of reasons why this might not  be true,
consider briefly what is going on here.  The air inside the wing  has no reference
to the world beyond the wing skin, no windows and no  instruments, so the only
sensation it can be aware of is an acceleration, cause  by either thrust or
gravity.  Since the only constant here is gravity  because there is no
acceleration by thrust in 1G, stabilized level flight over a  flat earth with no
atmosphere, etc, well then clearly the air in our wings has  an ability to sense and
react against gravity.  Eurika: the air inside our  wings is a powerful
anti-gravity devise--it has been there all along.  So  thank you Mr Lipps, I have
installed a valve in my newly finished Lancair IV  wings and am capturing some
of that magic in sealed containers to be marketed at  Star Trek conventions as
the enabler for the future development of an effective  warp drive.
paul the lessor




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