From: "Marvin Kaye" <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: FW: [LML] Re: Turbine crash - power lost on
 takeoff: blah blah paperwork
To: lml
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 11:26:52 -0500
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Posted for "Matt Hapgood" <matt.hapgood@alumni.duke.edu>:

  Bill,
  
  Those are really good points.  Rigorous simulator-based training would
  likely reduce the accidents in IV's, but the challenge is the $$$ for such a
  program.
  
  Since part of the problem is handling (low speed flight, etc.), the aircraft
  performance would need to be modeled.  This is a really, really, really
  expensive proposition (typically costs over $500k for a turbo-prop).
  
  The cost of a basic flight training device that would reasonably accurately
  represent the cockpit of a generic IV, and offer decent visual cues would
  run about $500k.  A motion based training device would be about $750k, and a
  full flight simulator would be about $3 or $4 million.
  
  So at the lower end the capital investment in the equipment would be close
  to $1.25mm.  Each of your lives is worth many times that, however I doubt
  anyone is willing to invest the capital - with the small fleet size it would
  be extremely difficult for a commercial entity to survive without charging
  Gulfstream training prices.
  
  I am surprised the insurance companies don't require training in an approved
  simulator-based program.  Until that happens, I believe the accidents will
  continue unabated.
  
  As Brent advises in many of his posts:  Assume I am an idiot.  I am also
  biased: I have spent the last 3 years of my life starting a simulator based
  flight training program.
  
  Matt Hapgood