X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 1 [X] Return-Path: Sender: To: lml Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 23:38:44 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.230] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.4) with ESMTP id 1765568 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:14:41 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.233.184.230; envelope-from=akadamson@gmail.com Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i21so639365wra for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 12:13:49 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:from:to:references:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:x-mimeole:thread-index:in-reply-to:sender; b=tsINcSD7tfAwJ34aNPdwGrpKTTdUhGLxyilPjR+wXFT4RA0fMIjq1FGOCjbbw9YtEcbDblJOQrQA2Q7jM6zAk3q4pZjam08Is3ygR2d9m7F1dDaDQuvlQSw1G90s8ZDR6ZWKFa9jj+SZuNIiG6p0pBFIBmAtnCxM0oXeLbTlkH0= Received: by 10.90.63.16 with SMTP id l16mr6694371aga.1169064826774; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 12:13:46 -0800 (PST) X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from Typhoon ( [68.71.93.111]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 10sm14057048wrl.2007.01.17.12.13.45; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 12:13:46 -0800 (PST) From: "Alan K. Adamson" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: Subject: RE: [LML] Flightaware X-Original-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:13:46 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <01ed01c73a73$feb9d4b0$0202fea9@highrf.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01EE_01C73A4A.15E3CCB0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: Acc6WVXWie+lOvQkRpa7/BD3jbCZfAAGiVbg In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: Alan Adamson This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01EE_01C73A4A.15E3CCB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Neal, Great idea, however, after being in a battle with a bunch of RV7 guys, you might wanna be a little careful... Those are Ground speed number on Flighaware... You'd need to know what the winds were at altitude that day to really be able to prove a point. Yes, the RV's are a *little slower* (most are cursing around 200MPH), but there are a handful that are running about 210-212MPH and doing it on about 8 g/hr They are a very "dollar" sensitive group and even fuel burn costs make for an interesting argument with them :) Either way, good point and always a fun thing. You can also put in types to see what of the various Lancair types are up flying at anytime. Mind you all of this has to be IFR flight plans. Alan _____ From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Neal Longwill Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:03 PM To: lml Subject: [LML] Flightaware Fellow Lancair pilots: One nice tool we use in sales to demonstrate our airplanes unique speed (and range) capability are the actual flight logs on www.flightaware.com. For example, we will have a potential Legacy FG customer pull up N550NL, you won't see many RV 7's at 17,000 ft 200+ knots doing 850nm legs. The catch is you have to file IFR on the ground to insure flightaware picks up the flight. Peter and I are putting together a list of frequent Lancair flyers to be able to reference, so if you fly IFR please let us know your tail number and model, you can email either one of us. It may also be fun at Lancair gatherings to announce the fasted recorded groundspeeds by type. Thanks, Lancair sales team. Neal Longwill neall@lancair.com Peter Grube peterg@lanciar.com ------=_NextPart_000_01EE_01C73A4A.15E3CCB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Neal,
 
Great idea, however, after being in a battle = with a bunch=20 of RV7 guys, you might wanna be a little careful... Those are Ground = speed=20 number on Flighaware... You'd need to know what the winds were at = altitude that=20 day to really be able to prove a point.  Yes, the RV's are a = *little=20 slower* (most are cursing around 200MPH), but there are a handful that = are=20 running about 210-212MPH and doing it on about 8 = g/hr
 
They are a very "dollar" sensitive group and = even fuel burn=20 costs make for an interesting argument with them :)
 
Either way, good point and always a fun = thing.  You=20 can also put in types to see what of the various Lancair types are up = flying at=20 anytime.
 
Mind you all of this has to be IFR flight=20 plans.
 
Alan

From: Lancair Mailing List=20 [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Neal = Longwill
Sent:=20 Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:03 PM
To: = lml
Subject: [LML]=20 Flightaware

Fellow Lancair pilots:
 
One nice tool we use in sales to = demonstrate our=20 airplanes unique speed (and range) capability are the actual flight = logs on=20 www.flightaware.com. For = example,=20 we will have a potential Legacy FG customer pull up N550NL, you won't = see many=20 RV 7's at 17,000 ft 200+ knots doing 850nm legs. The catch is you = have to=20 file IFR on the ground to insure flightaware picks up the=20 flight. 
 
Peter and I are putting together a list = of frequent=20 Lancair flyers to be able to reference, so if you fly IFR please let us = know=20 your tail number and model, you can email either one of us. It may = also be=20 fun at Lancair gatherings to announce the fasted recorded groundspeeds = by=20 type.
 
Thanks,
Lancair sales team.
 
Neal Longwill neall@lancair.com 
Peter Grube peterg@lanciar.com=20   
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