X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 10 [X] Return-Path: Received: from [161.88.255.139] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WEBUSER 5.1.4) with HTTP id 1743902 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 08 Jan 2007 10:24:48 -0500 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: [LML] D2A To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.1.4 Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 10:24:48 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <7141427652BB3049A7DBF1084B67805B0F7B1B@penumbra.arilabs.net> References: <7141427652BB3049A7DBF1084B67805B0F7B1B@penumbra.arilabs.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1";format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for "Kevin Stallard" : I just have to pipe in here and second what Joe has to say about Lancair and purchasing through them. We *are* a cut throat bunch of folks. My dad was a pilot, and it's so funny because he couldn't stand to spend more than $1.25 on his lunch while he was traveling as an airline pilot. That and sprouts. He had to have sprouts on his $1.25 sandwich. They are disgusting things. It makes me laugh every time I think about it. He was so cheap, it just cracks me up. The even funnier thing is that THEY ALL were that way. Everyone he worked with was cheap too! You should have seen their shared apartments they have. I remember asking my self...were these grown ups or college students... You never would have believed they made 100k plus salaries. I became a pilot in 2003, but I realized one thing, that flying is expensive, and if you get what you pay for. I used to really scorn at the middle man and would used to always fall for that "cut the middle man out" trick. Until I started to see what they have to offer. When you finally realize that time is more precious than money, the middle man saves you a ton of it. So I say pony up and pay for it, quit groaning, get busy, build and fly your rocket ship. Being able to go to Lancair to get the things I need, I don't take for granted. Have you guys seen what they do and keep track of? I think it is amazing that they are able to do what they do. I just spent 3 weeks in their builder program and got to see and understand just what they have to do there. Did you know that there is almost a shortage of Carbon Fiber? Do you know what happens when a supplier stops producing something a company relies on? It's not pretty, and they deal with it all the time. Besides dealing with sometime cranky and customers that have set unrealistic expectations of them, they get these kits out the door with so few errors in the hundreds of parts that go with them, it is amazing to me. By the way, the only reason I didn't purchase an engine though them, was because at the time, they didn't offer remanufactured engines, and I really didn't have the extra 10k to spend on a new one. The reason I didn't purchase the whole panel was because I really wanted the experience in building my own, not because I was trying to save a buck. I figure I'm going to spend a lot more of my time and money than otherwise, but wanted to do the work myself. I am purchasing my instruments through Lancair. Steve G is a good guy, I like working with him. Guys, you won't go wrong purchasing all your stuff through Lanciar. And I have to say, guys, sometimes your expectations are really too high. This is a *kit* aircraft after all is said and done, not a certificated manufactured airplane. Take a look around, no one does this better than Lancair. I really enjoyed working with all the folks there, and appreciated their support. Kim L., Tim O. Chris in the builders shop. They were all great and work hard. Finally, (this may sound over the top, but I mean it) I have to say thanks to Joe for turning this company into a business and managing it well. When I learned about the Legacy in 2001 or 2002, I knew this was my bird. It takes so much to keep a company running, you just have no idea. I'm so glad they were there when I was ready to purchase one. NO ONE has ANYTHING CLOSE to a Lancair. Did you see the article on Aero-News? Many fast kit manufactures are already out of business. Lancair is still there. Be patient with them and support them. You guys won't waste your money going through them. Just remember HOW COOL IT IS GOING TO BE to fly our birds. I don't have words to express how much I look forward to LAUNCHING this rocket ship of mine. It is going to be SO FAST, I can't get over it! It is going to be such a benefit to my business on SO MANY levels. Business trips, R&D, the list goes on. Go Lancair, keep up the excellent work you do. My wife wants me to build the minivan version next (ES-P). It'll be a few more years, but we'll get there. After the Legacy has paid for itself, we'll do the ES. Kevin L2K-291 and I just can't believe that it is actually sitting in my shop, someone pinch me PLEASE! Hopefully it won't be there too long....