X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 62 [XX] (48%) BODY: contains text similar to "buy direct" (26%) BODY: likely RX content (26%) BODY: contains stock spam words Return-Path: Sender: To: lml Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 02:47:41 -0500 Message-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-PolluStop-Diagnostic: (whitelisted) X-Orig-Return-Path: joeb@lancair.com X-PolluStop-Score: 0.0 X-PolluStop: Scanned with Niversoft PolluStop v2.3.4 X-SpamCatcher-Score: 62 [XX] (48%) BODY: contains text similar to "buy direct" (26%) BODY: likely RX content (26%) BODY: contains stock spam words X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mailfilter3.uci.net ([216.104.72.84] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.4) with SMTP id 1743102 for marv@lancaironline.net; Mon, 08 Jan 2007 00:19:28 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.104.72.84; envelope-from=joeb@lancair.com Received: (qmail 28422 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2007 05:18:44 -0000 Received: from ip-63-135-211-35.uci.net (HELO lancair.com) (63.135.211.35) by mailfilter3.uci.net with SMTP; 8 Jan 2007 05:18:44 -0000 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C732E4.9C5D0E68" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Subject: D2A X-Original-Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 21:19:46 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: <56F61FFD4498E64DB11C90D0C2B618FF421E05@lindbergh.lancair.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: D2A Thread-Index: Accy5JxM16UYv14NQZ+WRsTvGcxA1w== From: "Joe Bartels" X-Original-To: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C732E4.9C5D0E68 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lancair and Lancair Avionics Customers: =20 The D2A business failure is one which has touched all of us in one way = or another. I see the postings and I am sickened by the finger pointing = because I know that there must be more to this story than meets the eye. = I have never agreed fully with Kirk's business decisions, however, for = the well being of my customers, I continued purchasing, in good faith, = because it was Chelton products that I believed I was purchasing, = through D2A. I await, perhaps a bit more patiently than most, the full = story. I just can't believe Kirk is 100% at fault here. =20 On several occasions I spoke with customers and explained that I was = concerned about paying 100% up front for the Chelton package, especially = when there was such great controversy over which, if any, = AHARS/ADAHARS/GADAHARS would be appropriate for the IDU-1's. The truth = is the customers had already made up their respective minds about = Chelton having been so indoctrinated by so many D2A advertisements = alluding to the fact that Chelton would give you "...so much blue for so = little green." Our customers were cutthroat in trying to save every = dollar and would on so many occasions attempt to go outside of Lancair = Avionics, Inc. to buy direct from D2A. Last significant fact on this = part of the subject, there wasn't then and isn't now a product which = compares to the IDU-1's in price and performance, even if you now have = to pay a small amount more to get all that you thought you would get. =20 So what do we now do? Well, Lancair Avionics, Inc. is reviewing its = contracts with its customers who are still without an = AHARS/ADAHARS/GADAHARS. For those customers whose contract calls for = Crossbow 425's, they will get 425's. For those customers whose contract = calls for Pinpoint, they will get Pinpoint, however, they will have to = pay the difference between what the 425 costs and what the Pinpoint = costs. Contractually Lancair Avionics, Inc. may be responsible to its = customers fully, even if it was D2A that failed. I am in no way = conceding that point at this time, however, for those of you who have = never filed a lawsuit or have never been sued, let me tell you that it = is a very expensive, time consuming, and wasteful event, especially when = the singular loss to any one customer may be no more than $4,000.00. As = to Lancair Avionics, Inc., the total amount may be as much as = $145,000.00. =20 =20 I am suggesting to my Lancair Avionics customers that we share in the = loss as follows: 1) Chelton has obviously proposed providing product = at or near its cost; 2) Lancair Avionics, Inc. would like to pay = one-half of the amount required to acquire the items which D2A failed to = provide; 3) Lancair Avionics, Inc. proposes that the customers pay the = other one-half of the amount due necessary to acquire the items D2A = failed to provide; and, 4) Those customers who participate as requested = will receive a special discount on any item that they purchase through = Lancair which will total at least that amount equal to their = contribution to this effort. For instance, if a customer still has an = engine to purchase, we will discount the engine by the one-half = mentioned above. If the customer has already purchased items such as = engine, prop, panel, etc., Lancair will offer a discount on any other = airframe kit that we offer or will allow a special discount on parts and = accessories until such time as the customer's contribution to the = purchase of the back ordered D2A products is satisfied. =20 This offer, initially, is beneficial to Lancair and that is because we = would rather not have to suffer this financial loss all at once. We = hope that all or at least a majority of you will accept this offer.=20 =20 Now, let me address the comments of a "lister" with whom I take special = exception. Lancair obligates itself to pay each engine manufacturer = every time it places an order with that manufacturer. We are fully up = to date with most every vendor, including, but not limited to, = Continental, Lycoming, Avia and Hartzell. As a matter of fact our = efforts to pay in advance have caused each of these manufacturers grief = as they do not have a procedure by which to assign a pro-forma invoice = and accept funds before their final invoice is rendered. Since we wish = to keep our good credit with them, we demand payment from our customers = up front so that we may pay as soon as an invoice is rendered by these = companies. Further, we demand a 50% deposit on our kits now to assure = that those customers who order actually purchase the totality of the kit = they have ordered. Why? Because we have to forecast well into the = future our need for strategic materials, their transport to the = Philippines where we actually manufacture many of the parts contained in = our kits and arrange for those parts to be shipped back to the States, = the parts we keep on the shelf and the parts that go into your kits. = Believe me, the TSA/Border Patrol, etc., has not made importing of = these manufactured goods either easy or cheap. Our vendors require = significant annual commitments in order to get discounts, not to = mention, actual product. Torey, who provides us with the bulk of our = Carbon Fiber, must know well in advance our needs, otherwise, there just = won't be any! Wolstenholme Machine requires significant advanced notice = of orders just to procure the correct materials. Duke Fuel Pumps has a = 6 -9 month lead time. Multiply this by a thousand or so various parts = and you can see how one slip up can bring us to a grinding halt! So you = see, orders beget funds, funds beget parts, parts are manufactured into = product and the cycle continues.=20 =20 Finally, did I tell you that it costs millions to run Lancair every = year? How do you think we get the funds...solely through the sale of = kits? NO! We hope to generate additional revenue by the sale of = instrument panels, engines and propellers. Unfortunately we are not = getting very many of these sales for several reasons: 1) We perhaps = are not being as aggressive as may be required to get the sale; 2) we = may not be marketing the fact that we now have factory remanufactured = engines from Continental at significantly lower prices than that of new = (even though they are not painted red or sport chrome intake tubes and = rocker covers, but at least much quicker), and 3) our instrument panels = may cost a bit more because of the overhead factor associated with the = business as a whole, up to and including having to absorb a portion of = the loss associated with D2A, but we do warrant our product and will = make any necessary repairs to those who take time to call us (or me if = you are having difficulty 541-350-2901) for assistance. The distraction = caused by former Lancair Avionics employees is over. You can get a = panel within the 2 - 4 month period promised. =20 I ask that you support Lancair...not for me, (God knows I'm an attorney = so I must have been rich at one time, right?) but for the 55 - 60 = employees who work in Redmond and the 100 employees that work in the = Philippines all who bring you the finest home built kits available, bar = none! =20 =20 Joseph C. Bartels, CEO Lancair International, Inc. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C732E4.9C5D0E68 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
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The D2A business failure is one which has touched all of us in = one way or another.  I see the postings and I am sickened by the = finger pointing because I know that there must be more to this story = than meets the eye.  I have never = agreed fully with Kirk's business decisions, however, for the well being = of my customers, I continued purchasing, in good faith, because it was = Chelton products that I believed I was = purchasing, through D2A.  I await, perhaps a bit more patiently = than most, the full story.  I just can't believe Kirk is 100% at = fault here.
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On several occasions I spoke with customers and explained = that I was concerned about paying 100% up front for the Chelton package, = especially when there was such great controversy over which, if any, = AHARS/ADAHARS/GADAHARS would be appropriate for the IDU-1's.  The = truth is the customers had already made up their respective minds about = Chelton having been so indoctrinated by = so many D2A advertisements alluding to the fact that = Chelton would give you "...so much blue = for so little green."  Our customers were cutthroat in trying to = save every dollar and would on so many occasions attempt to go outside = of Lancair Avionics, Inc. to buy direct from D2A.  Last significant = fact on this part of the subject, there wasn't then and isn't now a = product which compares to the IDU-1's in price and performance, even if = you now have to pay a small amount more to get all that you thought you = would get.
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So what do we now do?  Well, Lancair Avionics, Inc. = is reviewing its contracts with its customers who are still without an = AHARS/ADAHARS/GADAHARS.  For those customers whose contract calls = for Crossbow 425's, they will get 425's.  For those customers whose = contract calls for Pinpoint, they will get Pinpoint, however, they will = have to pay the difference between what the 425 costs and what the = Pinpoint costs.  Contractually Lancair Avionics, Inc. may be = responsible to its customers fully, even if it was D2A that = failed.  I am in no way conceding that point at this time, however, = for those of you who have never filed a lawsuit or have never been sued, = let me tell you that it is a very expensive, time consuming, and = wasteful event, especially when the singular loss to any one customer = may be no more than $4,000.00.  As to Lancair Avionics, Inc., the = total amount may be as much as $145,000.00. 
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I am suggesting to my Lancair Avionics customers that we = share in the loss as follows:  1)  Chelton has obviously = proposed providing product at or near its cost;  2)  Lancair = Avionics, Inc. would like to pay one-half of the amount required to = acquire the items which D2A failed to provide;  3)  Lancair = Avionics, Inc. proposes that the customers pay the other one-half of the = amount due necessary to acquire the items D2A failed to provide; and, = 4)  Those customers who participate as requested will receive a = special discount on any item that they purchase through Lancair which = will total at least that amount equal to their contribution to this = effort.  For instance, if a customer still has an engine to = purchase, we will discount the engine by the one-half mentioned = above.  If the customer has already purchased items such as engine, = prop, panel, etc., Lancair will offer a discount on any other airframe = kit that we offer or will allow a special discount on parts and = accessories until such time as the customer's contribution to the = purchase of the back ordered D2A products is satisfied.
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This offer, initially, is beneficial to Lancair and = that is because we would rather not have to suffer this financial = loss all at once.  We hope that all or at least a majority of you = will accept this offer. 
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Now, let me address the comments of a "lister" with whom = I take special exception.  Lancair obligates itself to pay each = engine manufacturer every time it places an order with that = manufacturer.  We are fully up to date with most every vendor, = including, but not limited to, Continental, Lycoming, Avia and = Hartzell.  As a matter of fact our efforts to pay in advance have = caused each of these manufacturers grief as they do not have a procedure = by which to assign a pro-forma invoice and accept funds before their = final invoice is rendered.  Since we wish to keep our good credit = with them, we demand payment from our customers up front so that we may = pay as soon as an invoice is rendered by these companies.  Further, = we demand a 50% deposit on our kits now to assure that those customers = who order actually purchase the totality of the kit they have = ordered.  Why?  Because we have to forecast well into the = future our need for strategic materials, their transport to the = Philippines where we actually manufacture many of the parts contained in = our kits and arrange for those parts to be shipped back to the States, = the parts we keep on the shelf and the parts that go into your = kits.  Believe me, the TSA/Border Patrol, etc.,  has not made = importing of these manufactured goods either easy or cheap.  Our = vendors require significant annual commitments in order to get = discounts, not to mention, actual product.  Torey, who provides us = with the bulk of our Carbon Fiber, must know well in advance our needs, = otherwise, there just won't be any!  Wolstenholme = Machine requires significant advanced notice of orders just to = procure the correct materials.  Duke Fuel Pumps has a 6 -9 month = lead time.  Multiply this by a thousand or so various parts and you = can see how one slip up can bring us to a grinding halt!  So = you see, orders beget funds, funds beget parts, parts are manufactured = into product and the cycle continues. 
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Finally, did I tell you that it costs millions to run = Lancair every year?  How do you think we get the funds...solely = through the sale of kits?  NO!  We hope to generate = additional revenue by the sale of instrument panels, engines and = propellers.  Unfortunately we are not getting very many of these = sales for several reasons:  1)  We perhaps are not being as = aggressive as may be required to get the sale;  2)  we may not = be marketing the fact that we now have factory remanufactured engines = from Continental at significantly lower prices than that of new (even = though they are not painted red or sport chrome intake tubes and rocker = covers, but at least much quicker), and 3)  our instrument panels = may cost a bit more because of the overhead factor associated with the = business as a whole, up to and including having to absorb a portion of = the loss associated with D2A, but we do warrant our product and will = make any necessary repairs to those who take time to call us (or me if = you are having difficulty 541-350-2901) for assistance.  The = distraction caused by former Lancair Avionics employees is over.  = You can get a panel within the 2 - 4 month period promised.
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I ask that you support Lancair...not for me, (God knows = I'm an attorney so I must have been rich at one time, right?)  but = for the 55 - 60 employees who work in Redmond and the 100 employees that = work in the Philippines all who bring you the finest home built kits = available, bar none! 
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Joseph C. Bartels, = CEO
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Lancair International, = Inc.
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