X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 30 [X] Return-Path: Sender: To: lml Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:25:59 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-m26.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.7] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.3) with ESMTP id 1678141 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:40:59 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.137.7; envelope-from=VTAILJEFF@aol.com Received: from VTAILJEFF@aol.com by imo-m26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id q.c18.b8b4c38 (60435) for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:40:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from WEBMAIL-MA14 (webmail-ma14.webmail.aol.com [64.12.88.78]) by ciaaol-d01.mail.aol.com (v114.2) with ESMTP id MAILCIAAOLD014-ec134582cfe81f2; Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:40:08 -0500 References: X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Lancair De-Ice is OK X-Original-Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:40:08 -0500 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: vtailjeff@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8C8EE7ED0B3DF20_108C_9C76_WEBMAIL-MA14.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 22250 Received: from 66.220.104.170 by WEBMAIL-MA14.sysops.aol.com (64.12.88.78) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:40:08 -0500 X-Original-Message-Id: <8C8EE7ED0B64177-108C-5299@WEBMAIL-MA14.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 64.12.88.78 X-Spam-Flag: NO ----------MB_8C8EE7ED0B3DF20_108C_9C76_WEBMAIL-MA14.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Contact TKS or Thermalwing-- they should have an answer since they sell the product. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: colyncase@earthlink.net To: lml Sent: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:18 PM Subject: [LML] Re: Lancair De-Ice is OK What are the rules regarding known icing and experimentals. I don't know the real answer to that but I THINK the answer is you'll never get an experimental approved for known icing. Part of (the main part) of known icing certification as it was explained to me is that the airplane has to continue flying xx (20?) minutes after a complete de-ice system failure at yy droplet size at zz accumulation rate. I'd guess that's a flunk for any skinny wing plastic airplane. On the other hand, where I live, you are not going anywhere in the winter without going through a few thousand feet of cloud that is in the ice making temp range. Leaving out the freezing rain days, clear ice days, and ice to the ground days, de-ice capability would make an operational difference. ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ----------MB_8C8EE7ED0B3DF20_108C_9C76_WEBMAIL-MA14.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Contact TKS or Thermalwing-- they should have an answer since they sell the product. 
 
Jeff
 
-----Original Message-----
From: colyncase@earthlink.net
To: lml
Sent: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:18 PM
Subject: [LML] Re: Lancair De-Ice is OK

What are the rules regarding known icing and experimentals.
 
I don't know the real answer to that but I THINK the answer is
you'll never get an experimental approved for known icing.
 
Part of (the main part) of known icing certification as it was explained
to me is that the airplane has to continue flying xx (20?) minutes after
a complete de-ice system failure at yy droplet size at zz accumulation rate.
 
I'd guess that's a flunk for any skinny wing plastic airplane.
 
On the other hand, where I live, you are not going anywhere in the winter without
going through a few thousand feet of cloud that is in the ice making temp range.
 
Leaving out the freezing rain days, clear ice days, and ice to the ground days,
de-ice capability would make an operational difference.
 
 
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