Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.2) with ESMTP id 1021244 for rob@logan.com; Wed, 09 Jan 2002 01:46:18 -0500 Received: from tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.55]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 11:24:51 -0500 Received: from default ([65.93.91.83]) by tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20020107162605.TETN16876.tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net@default> for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 11:26:05 -0500 Message-ID: <000d01c19798$9d7b2100$535b5d41@default> From: "Ian B. Crowe" To: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Sky-Tec Starter trouble shooting Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 11:30:26 -0500 Organization: Corvi Trade Consultants Inc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> You obviously have enough power to power the solenoid which engages the starter pinion. The question is why the engine fails to turn. 1. Check engine is not hard to turn by hand. Usual care is required. 2. Check level of electrolyte in battery. If necessary top up with distilled water and recharge battery. 3. Check battery voltage off load and on load (CRANKING). If normal off load and low when on load you have a battery problem. Be careful when doing this to not keep it on load any longer than necessary to get a reading. If voltage on load <10volts you have a battery problem. Take this voltage at the power terminal of the starter. If the voltage is OK you need to look at the starter motor internals. Take it off and get it checked at a starter rebuild shop. If the voltage is <10volts try a booster battery to prove that another battery can turn the engine. If it does turn you need a new battery. If not read on. 4. Check starter solenoids. It appears that you have the connection used for certified aircraft with the solenoid on the firewall. It could be that the main contacts of this solenoid have gone high resistance due to use(Arced) and will not pass the necessary current to drive the motor. With the battery disconnected put an ohmeter across the main terminals. Apply power to the coil of the solenoid by means of a jumper and check the solenoid pulls in and you have the equivalent of a dead short across the main terminals. If you can measure resistance you have a problem. If you do not want to do the above, go and buy yourself a good quality auto motive starter solenoid and replace your existing solenoid. If you determine that everything is correct at this stage go to 5. 5. You have now done all you can and should have reached a conclusion that it is either, a) Battery needed service. Distilled water. b) Battery needed charge. c) New battery needed d) Solenoid defective, change it. e) Starter defective, rebuild it. f) Engine has mechanical blockage or internal seizure. g) A long shot, you have a high resistance connection in the supply cable. Unlikely, as it would have burnt the cable when power was applied but check your cable lugs and the insulation of the cables. I am another builder and that is what I would do and have done in times past. I hope this helps but remember I am no expert so tread carefully. Ian Crowe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://members.olsusa.com/mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please remember that purchases from the Builders' Bookstore assist with the management of the LML. Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>