Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #37812
From: Alan K. Adamson <aadamson@highrf.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Boost pump switching
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 09:39:07 -0400
To: <lml>
Yeah, this is an interesting topic.  I've asked probably a dozen or so Lancair flyers, all flying some form of the IO-550.  NONE of them seem to use the fuel pump for places that I would expect.  That being take off, landing or fuel tank switching.  And yet, every low wing certified airplane that I've ever been in does.
 
All they can say, is that with a Cont, you don't need to, in fact, it appears that below 10K feet, there is some suggestion that doing so (even low boost) will provide "too much" fuel.  However, my mind would suggest that because all of these engines have "return lines", that too much fuel is just returned to the tank so how can it "over pressure" the lines and flood the engine...
 
Maybe Walter and the guys at Gami can offer a suggestion.  If they do, please offer it for both or either IO-550 or TSIO-550 if they are different.
 
Thanks,
Alan


From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Chatfield S. Daniel
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 4:28 PM
To: Lancair Mailing List
Subject: [LML] Re: Boost pump switching

You guys don’t turn on low boost for takeoff and landing?

Chat Daniel

Super ES

 


From: Alan K. Adamson [mailto:aadamson@highrf.com]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 3:35 PM
To: Lancair Mailing List
Subject: [LML] Re: Boost pump switching

 

Ok, you guys are making me feel a little better.... I may just stay with the OFF-LOW-(HIGH) concept on a single switch and do some testing during phase 1.

 

However, I will share a recent experience in a TSIO-550.  I was flying an ES recently with this engine.  In all flight configurations, at 10K or higher, the low boost was turned on.  There was no hesitation in the engine and it continued to perform with no rough running, or other noticeable changes.  The guys I flew with, would do a 10K check both climbing and descending.  At 10K, boost pump and landing light on or off depending on climbing (on) or descending (off) - light opposite.

 

Alan

 


From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Jim Scales
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 2:45 PM
To: Lancair Mailing List
Subject: [LML] Re: Boost pump switching

My ES has a momentary prime switch along with a low and high boost switch.

 

I use the high boost to pressurize the fuel system before starting.  I use the prime position for a couple of seconds before doing a cold start.  I do not use it on hot starts.

 

I use low boost to clear the injector lines of any vapor when doing a hot start. I turn it off for the start. After the engine starts I turn the low boost back on for about 30 seconds to prevent vaporization.  Then the pump is off for all operations.

 

(Early on I would use the high boost pump to cool the fuel lines for a minute or so before a hot start.  Eventually, I found that I could get better results by setting mixture full rich and then using low boost to clear and pressurize the injector lines.  I can actually hear when the vapor clears and the lines develop pressure.  The pump begins to labor and the sound gets deeper.  Hot starts are no problem.)

 

I have experienced a loss of engine driven fuel pump while on the ground.  Low boost kept the engine running but in no way could the plane have been flown.  Way too rich.

 

I once used the low boost in flight when trying out tank switching procedures.  Low boost made the engine run extremely rough.  I have trouble thinking there is a ever a time to run the pump in normal flight operations.

 

My $.02.  No flaming please.  This stuff works really well for me. 

 

Jim Scales

N98AF

Angel's Playmate

800 hours


Low Boost - switched on at or above 10K feet and run for the duration of the
flight at that level to provide added purging of vapors or bubbles that
might exist in the lines

High Boost - Prime at startup.

Ok, now, I've also heard that you use High Boost any time you loose an
engine driven fuel pump.  Will low boost suffice?


I've found a couple of switches that I could replace the single with that
will allow switching to low and locking out high unless placed there, or I
could go to an ON-ON-ON type without the momentary.

So, could you splain to me, what the various boost modes are or if there is
another compromise that I haven't thought of with one switch.

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