X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [24.51.79.189] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WEBUSER 5.1c.4) with HTTP id 1405487 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 16 Sep 2006 00:37:05 -0400 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Backfires LOP To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.1c.4 Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 00:37:05 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <34F44442-D8BB-4884-9EA2-BD7E3A9D59F8@advancedpilot.com> References: <34F44442-D8BB-4884-9EA2-BD7E3A9D59F8@advancedpilot.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1";format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for Walter Atkinson : Scott: Very well done and clearly explained. I would add that based on your definitions (which I like and agree with) that it's just "misfire." It can be from being overly rich or overly lean as you pointed out. So, rich misfire and lean misfire are precisely the same event. Agreed on all of the ignition issues. What we frequently hear as being labeled lean misfire is the roughness felt from LOP mixtures that are not F:A balanced. That, is of course, not within your definition and I agree wholeheartedly that yours is right and theirs is off the mark completely. Thanks for the thorough and clear explanation. Walter