X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 09:25:31 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from osiris.email.starband.net ([148.78.247.140] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.3) with ESMTP id 1372422 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 10 Sep 2006 06:25:44 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=148.78.247.140; envelope-from=hwasti@starband.net Received: from [127.0.0.1] (vsat-148-64-23-255.c050.t7.mrt.starband.net [148.64.23.255]) by osiris.email.starband.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k8AAOtxE009345 for ; Sun, 10 Sep 2006 06:25:01 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <4503E7DD.2020800@starband.net> X-Original-Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 03:24:29 -0700 From: "Hamid A. Wasti" User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Exiting a Legacy post crash References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.86.2, clamav-milter version 0.86 on osiris X-Virus-Status: Clean Posted for Kevin Kossi : > > Chat, how about this; I promise you I will not even try to get out > of the > plane if it spins, I'll just sit there and wait for the ground. Kevin, The subject of bailing out of a spinning aircraft is rather moot. Most spin accidents happen at pattern altitude. By the time you recognize the spin, make the decision to get out and get yourself out of the airplane, you are already walking into the light. The only thing that will help at these altitudes is real military style ejection seat. If you find yourself spinning at a high enough altitude where you can bail out, you either got into it intentionally, or botched stall practice. Both of those situations are better handled by a much more reliable and effective device than a parachute -- an experienced flight instructor. While we are on the subject of bailing out, the whole notion of bailing out of a general aviation airplane after a structural failure is rather asinine. If you truly have a structural failure that renders the airplane uncontrollable, you are most probably experiencing G forces and aerodynamic loads that make getting out of the airplane impossible. All of this is assuming that you are able to stay alert and oriented enough to try. Yes, there are structural failures possible that leave the airplane marginally controllable, but not controllable enough to land. However, do you think the airplane will be stable hands off in such a situation? What happens when you let go of the controls to make your exit? Regards, Hamid