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From a previous alternator "challenge" on my 360
Excess
vibration being transmitted to to the brushes at specific RPMs caused
the brushes to hop away from the commutator just long enough to let the
output voltage drop. Then when the brush again made contact, the
alternator output spiked to over 16.1V for >50msec, causing the VR's
SCR OVP to trigger, popping the Field circuit breaker. Since even
B&C Specialties could not tell me the time constant for the
VR/alternator closed loop system, the differing vibration frequency
from certain engine RPMs would cause a long enough hop.
jim...
N1222K 611.1 hours
Paul Lipps wrote:
I did a test on a Nippondenso alternator
the other day. Its no-load voltage with 13.2V on the field and spun at
3000rpm was 40.2V. That's average voltage; its 3-phase rectified peaks
are higher. The alternator's pulley OD is 2.75", and the pulley on the
starter ring-gear is about 9.5". This means that its output at 2700 rpm
is about 125V. Have any of you measured the time constant of your OV
crowbar? I would think that it would have a filter in the trigger
circuit to prevent false triggering on transients, so there is probably
several milliseconds from the appearance of an OV event until the
crowbar activates. There is probably a several millisecond L/R field
time constant for the decay of the field current. If one of you has the
means to test this total loop, it would be interesting to see just how
long this magnitude of OV would be present at the alternator output.
Keep in mind that there has to be an overvoltage existing on the main
buss before it can be detected. I have queried Exide about the L-R-C
time constants of a typical 25AH lead-acid battery, and its reaction to
a very brief high-voltage transient but have not yet received a reply.
Consider: a lead-acid battery generates voltage by an electrochemical
reaction, and is charged by the reverse reaction. Wouldn't an
electrochemical reaction of ion exchange on the cell walls take a
finite amount of time? I wouldn't think it would be on the order of
the light-speed of electricity flowing in a conductor. I would hazard a
guess that any sinking of a short-duration transient would be more due
to battery capacitance than to being through absorption by the chemical
reaction. The inductance in the leads from the battery to the buss
would also add an additional time delay. There is nothing instaneous in
electricity. Even the thought-to-be instantaneity of doppler radar
isn't. The processor counts cycles over a fixed gate period, which
yields the range change, so its apparent effective time, with constant
range-rate, is in the middle of the count period, and the range-rate is
range per count-period. So! How long would a 125 V transient from an
alternator exist on the buss? Long enough to damage some fine avionics?
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