Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #36428
From: <Sky2high@aol.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: no more tragic news please!
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:06:33 -0400
To: <lml>
In a message dated 6/27/2006 5:07:54 A.M. Central Standard Time, skipslater@earthlink.net writes:
   The reason for the turn at 1.5 miles was threefold:
   750' AGL (300' above a normal glidepath)
   210 KIAS (about 100 knots too fast)
   1900 fpm rate of descent (around 1200 fpm higher than a normal descent rate)
 
That plane was coming down like a clean brick to try to salvage an unsalvageable approach when at 1.5 miles, it became obvious that a right 360 was needed to get down and slow down enough to land.  Apparently, the turn into the dark combined with an unarrested sink rate resulted in flying into the water a little over halfway through the turn.
Skip,
 
Hmmmm, I just looked at the ILS and GPS plates for runway 13 at KPVU.  This is another example of a puzzler that makes one wonder what was the start of the chain of errors and why it wasn't broken.  There should have been plenty of "instrument" guidance available - even in the VMC conditions that existed.  Turning over the dark water should have been a non-event with an approach dialed into the system and reversion to instrument scan.
 
I remember that during a night currency flight on a dark "cloudless" night with the city lights to the east and the unlit cornfields to the west, I was on the downwind to rwy 9 and the turn to base left me in the black hole of an errant cloud. Reverting to instruments kept the plane level until emerging from that little bugger.  The lesson learned was to expect anything at night and dial in the ILS if one is available for the runway.
 
Scott
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