X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-PolluStop: No license found, only first 5 messages were scanned Return-Path: Sender: To: lml Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 06:05:47 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail.pshift.com ([63.166.217.30] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.1) with ESMTP id 1207636 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:59:36 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=63.166.217.30; envelope-from=colyncase@earthlink.net Received: from ccaselt (unverified [216.57.118.189]) by mail.pshift.com (Vircom SMTPRS 4.35.477.0) with SMTP id for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:58:51 -0400 X-Modus-BlackList: 216.57.118.189=OK;colyncase@earthlink.net=OK X-Modus-RBL: 216.57.118.189=OK X-Modus-Trusted: 216.57.118.189=NO X-Original-Message-ID: <018801c6999d$fcb17000$0202a8c0@nvidia.com> From: "colyncase on earthlink" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: LIV Stalls X-Original-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:58:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0185_01C69963.500932F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0185_01C69963.500932F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Barry said, Moral of the story is just because a pilot reports a horror story about = flight characteristics, doesn't mean that the plane is the culprit. That's Charlie Kohler you are talking about and the post is on LML. I only know of two other related spin incidents where the pilot lived. One was the ES video - also on LML. The other was the Columbia 400 spin test - a design wihich spin tested = years earlier but the production item was just enough different that it wouldn't recover without a chute (this was in 2003). There's no data to support the assertion that an LIVP in a spin is = recoverable. There is less data to support the assertion that your particular LIVP in = a spin is recoverable. Not that I'm any expert. =20 Colyn ------=_NextPart_000_0185_01C69963.500932F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Barry said,

Moral of the story is just because a pilot reports a horror = story about=20 flight characteristics, doesn't mean that the plane is the = culprit.

That's Charlie Kohler you are talking about and the post is on = LML.

I only know of two other related spin incidents where the pilot=20 lived.

One was the ES video - also on LML.

The other was the Columbia 400 spin test - a design wihich spin = tested=20 years earlier but the production item was just enough

different that it wouldn't recover without a chute (this was in=20 2003).

There's no data to support the = assertion that an=20 LIVP in a spin is recoverable.

There is less data to support the = assertion that=20 your particular LIVP in a spin is recoverable.

Not that I'm any expert. =

Colyn

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