Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #36014
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Subject: Re: [LML] Re: IVP Crash, Lancair handling characteristics
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 17:28:30 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
In a message dated 5/20/2006 6:09:37 A.M. Central Standard Time, domcrain@tpg.com.au writes:

Hmmm.

I think I have a comment worth posting on the tail size.Now, here in OZ I have a “large tail” 320.

Yet, it seems that there were two ways of determining the “large tail” design when the local authority demanded it.One was to create a new 25% larger horizontal stab with the elevator full width, and the elevator horns wrapped around the ends.The other was to extend the horizontal stab the 25% while retaining the same elevator width. ( Thus, my request to Grayhawk for a measure of the length of his tail – er, elevator - ahem!)

Now, at approach speeds, I find I run out of pitch trim at about the point of stabilized approach with landing flap (30) on final.This means that the there is always an ever so slight tendency for pitch down at that speed.Which in turn means stability.Now, Airbus, in its wisdom, and for those who have flown or still fly ‘em know, decided Lancair had a great idea with this nose down pitch stability on approach.Cos at 100’ on final, the elevator computer takes a snapshot of the pitch angle, and retains that in memory.Then at 50’ the elevator computer commences a positive nose down pitch which demands the pilot commences a flare into the landing.Bloody marvelous mates.

Also I had the privilege of flying Bill and Sue’s 320 at Fredericksburg last year, although I suggest Bill would suggest the term, “fly”, is a gross exaggeration in my case, and confess I couldn’t tell the difference between my tail and theirs.What I found a mystery was the over-control I exhibited in both pitch and roll axes. Mine is very stable in both areas.

Dom,
 
Egads, I forgot to do the measuring of my almost "built as designed" small tail.  Nothing was increased in size (except the pilot girth) - not the motor (320), the mount or the tail.  The "almost" is that the empennage flying surfaces are thinner than most, improperly placing more faith in the molded skins than the rib plans. Oh, and a shorter bellcrank.
 
Lancair 300 series characteristics - Hmmmm, I am able to trim to almost neutral thru all normal speeds and flap deployments (full 45 degrees). I don't like to totally trim out pitch forces on final as I prefer to feel some small force against my hand (uh, fingers).  I have landed with the only fuel being 4 gals in the header (forward CG) and have found full elevator authority to do so. 
 
I do run out of nose down trim at race speeds.  However, I will not further adjust for the more needed nose down trim at race speeds as I prefer to be holding the necessary wee bit of nose down force.  Should I start to daydream, I will climb rather than descend into the landscape beneath me.
 
BUT, there are different trim mechanisms, each with its own pros and cons:
 
1. I am using the shortened elevator bellcrank (3" instead of 4"), thus shortening the stick throw by 25% and increasing the stick forces in pitch.  I also use the Dick Reichel geared walnut trim wheel (almost matching the teak grips) with stiffer than normal springs.  The drawback of a spring bias trim system is the control surface same direction movement dead band force.  That is, if the springs are holding "up" elevator, it takes little force to start to move the elevator further up and more than normal force to move it down against the more compressed positioning spring.
 
2. Trim tabs are frequently used and require little deflection at cruise speed for effectiveness.  They sometimes lose effectiveness at slow speeds where the elevator may become sensitive to small forces in any direction.  This may be the case that some have indicated where excessive elevator movement (even apparent control reversal) seems necessary and might lead to pilot induced oscillations.  Some of this problem may lie in the size of the trim tab.  Standard certificated airplanes seem to have rather large tabs in proportion to the elevator size.
 
 
Scott Krueger AKA Grayhawk
Lancair N92EX IO320 SB 89/96
Aurora, IL (KARR)

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