X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 15:03:29 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web34902.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([209.191.68.181] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.3) with SMTP id 865620 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 06 Dec 2005 15:01:58 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.191.68.181; envelope-from=n103md@yahoo.com Received: (qmail 27036 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Dec 2005 20:01:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=uPDHGR+6C/i0nknoD/XfaYQ1bf2ZXxlreJBslQm8wUFJblEF9h4eEgcpj94sZQ2PP4/r1ZZqnwPLCkdgQv9rdCgJ7yMHo4qf6ecPyOPdssj6cQJc38nj84f/QM0LSvxABpHzy2YCOzEMKUO0+vLbEHvgXnSXZnErm0rGuI8Zjrk= ; X-Original-Message-ID: <20051206200101.27034.qmail@web34902.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.146.139.19] by web34902.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 06 Dec 2005 12:01:01 PST X-Original-Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 12:01:01 -0800 (PST) From: bob mackey Subject: Re: [LML] Airfoil Surface Roughness X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The CAFE report on waxing a Mooney and gaining a few knots is interesting in that it has actual data from actual flights. There were not enough flights to determine experimentally the range of uncertainty in their measurements, but it is much better than most of the hogwash that gets bandied about. [ Note that "data" is not the plural of "anecdote". ] For a much more comprehensive view of drag reduction, see: Personal Aircraft Drag Reduction by Bruce H. Carmichael (Published and sold by the author, 34795 Camino Capistrano, Capistrano Beach, California 92624, USA: 1995) 195pp, 195 illus., 26 tables, refs. Photocopy, 1/c, Velobound. US$25 postpaid in USA, $28 Canada, $33 Western Europe, $35 elsewhere. ) http://www89.pair.com/techinfo/Books/bookrev.htm ahhh... I see it is now available through Aircraft Spruce also: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/bvpages/drag_reduct.php PS - golf balls are dimpled because turbulent flow leaves a smaller separation bubble behind the ball than would laminar flow. The low pressure separation bubble is the major source of drag on a golf ball. It could be reduced by changing the shape of the ball, but then it would be hard to hit straight, and putting would be especially challenging. -bob mackey __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com