X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 16:09:13 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta10.adelphia.net ([68.168.78.202] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c5) with ESMTP id 950089 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:01:36 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.168.78.202; envelope-from=dfs155@adelphia.net Received: from f3g6s4 ([67.22.49.202]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050519190046.LOH17140.mta10.adelphia.net@f3g6s4> for ; Thu, 19 May 2005 15:00:46 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <004e01c55ca4$880ef240$ca311643@losaca.adelphia.net> From: "Dan Schaefer" X-Original-To: "Lancair list" Subject: Re: Emergency Landings X-Original-Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 11:56:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Barry Hancock posed the question: "What the heck are 172's doing in the next area code before turning base?" Don't know where you fly, Barry, but even way back when I was taking instruction at the Long Beach, CA airport, one would often be told by the tower when you made your initial callup: "Enter left downwind for 25 left, call abeam the tower, you're number 4,5,6,7 (pick one) for landing following a Cessna, continue on downwind, I will call your base turn". You'd then proceed almost to a point where you needed an extra couple of gallons to get back to the runway (OK, OK, that's an exaggeration, but you'd certainly be WAY beyond engine-out gliding distance, for sure) before hearing the instruction to turn base. An often heard transmission from someone in the pattern went something like: "Uhhh, Long Beach tower, Holepoker 45 X-ray on extended downwind for 25 left, have you forgotten me"? It's probably worse nowadays. You could avoid this by just going to another local airport, though sometimes they'd be in the same situation. Not necessarily a good solution particularly when the airplane and instructor were based at a Long Beach FBO. I wholeheartedly agree with your contention but the real world very often rears it's ugly head. Dan Schaefer