X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 13:45:53 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.202.55] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c5) with ESMTP id 947084 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 17 May 2005 09:11:33 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.202.55; envelope-from=bjburr@mwheli.com Received: from vaio (c-67-186-218-101.hsd1.ut.comcast.net[67.186.218.101]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2005051713104601100inm9ve>; Tue, 17 May 2005 13:10:46 +0000 From: "Bryan J. Burr" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" Subject: RE: [LML] crash safety/no crash safety X-Original-Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 07:04:12 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: <02b001c55ae0$f4a7a9d0$0400a8c0@VAIO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02B1_01C55AAE.AA0D39D0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02B1_01C55AAE.AA0D39D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I will take that two cents anytime. There are several fly-ins coming up this summer. I would be very grateful to learn from you. Bryan N132BB -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Jim Rogers Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 8:33 PM To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: [LML] crash safety/no crash safety OK I guess I have to add my two cents now. There are those of us that are engine guys and those of us that are composit guys and those of us that are electric guys. Then there are those of us that are great pilots and those of us that were not so great. What we all need to be are safety guys. I have just retired from the military after being the safety guy/helicopter pilot for my entire career. I started in Nam and stayed with it because it was my chance to affect the most people in the most positive way. It also gave me a lot of pull. When I said that it wasn't going to be safe, everybody looked at it again and we applied risk management to minimize the losses. I am sure that some of you must have additional experience and I would be willing to work with you all to develop a program to share with the rest of the group. I have not looked at the King course because I was teaching RM twenty years before they got it together, but we could look at it and I could contribute what I have developed over the years and we could try to develop a lesson plan for on line study. I am not looking for money. I am not looking for a break on my insurance[it would be nice]. I just do not want to continue to hear the tragic stories that I have been hearing. Risk Management, in the simpelist terms ,is like checking to see if there is toilet paper before you squat. Your butt is on the line. Jim ------=_NextPart_000_02B1_01C55AAE.AA0D39D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Well,=20 I will take that two cents anytime.  There are several fly-ins = coming up=20 this summer.  I would be very grateful to learn from=20 you.
 
Bryan
N132BB
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From: = Lancair Mailing=20 List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Jim=20 Rogers
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 8:33 PM
To: = Lancair=20 Mailing List
Subject: [LML] crash safety/no crash=20 safety

OK I guess I have to add my two cents = now. There=20 are those of us that are engine guys and those of us that are composit = guys=20 and those of us that are electric guys.  Then there are those of = us that=20 are great pilots and those of us that were not so great. What we all = need to=20 be are safety guys. I have just retired from the military after being = the=20 safety guy/helicopter pilot for my entire career. I started in = Nam and=20 stayed with it because it was my chance to affect the most people in = the most=20 positive way. It also gave me a lot of pull. When I said that it = wasn't going=20 to be safe, everybody looked at it again and we applied risk = management to=20 minimize the losses. I am sure that some of you must have additional=20 experience and I would be willing to work with you all to develop a = program to=20 share with the rest of the group.  I have not looked at the King = course=20 because I was teaching RM twenty years before they got it together, = but we=20 could look at it and I could contribute what I have developed over the = years=20 and we could try to develop a lesson plan for on line study.  I = am not=20 looking for money. I am not looking for a break on my insurance[it = would be=20 nice]. I just do not want to continue to hear the tragic stories that = I have=20 been hearing. Risk Management, in the simpelist terms ,is like = checking to see=20 if there is toilet paper before you squat. Your butt is on the line.=20 Jim
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