Return-Path: Received: from postoffice.mr.net ([137.192.180.7]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52269U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 13:41:37 -0400 Received: by postoffice.mr.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16620 at Sat, 10 Jul 1999 12:44:42 -0500 (CDT) SMTP "HELO" = mr.net But _really_ from upp16-233.nas.mr.net [137.192.71.233] SMTP "MAIL FROM" = msmith1@mr.net SMTP "RCPT TO" = Message-ID: <3787865A.46952AAA@mr.net> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 12:43:54 -0500 From: Michael D Smith To: "lancair.list@olsusa.com" Subject: GPS Certification X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Has anyone certified a Garmin 430 for IFR enroute and approach in the 4? I mounted the antenna in the aft portion of the fuselage just forward of the beginning edge of the vertical stabilizer per recommendations of Regan and others. The avionics guy, who makes a living revising and upgrading military spec and biz jet class electrical systems, is an extremely knowledgeable and skilled individual who has consisted opined that I should have mounted it high in the tail. (read mistake on my part) Given the noteworthy opinions I received, I chose the more forward and less elevated position. Does anyone have thoughts or experience in this area? I will post his comments to me after my signature. Michael D Smith Mike, I've been doing some reading on the subject of GPS IFR certification. Since you've paid for an IFR capable box, I assume you're going to want it certified. The easiest method is to use an existing, certified airplane installation as the certification basis. You might want to put out a feeler on the Lancair internet forum and ask what others have done. Has anybody done an IFR certification (en-route or approach) in a Lancair 4 or 4P with the Garmin 430 and your antenna location? If not, the process gets a little involved. The other question is weather or not we need the external annunciators. Garmin was claiming we don't, but it's really up to the local FAA office. We have provisions for them if needed. My main concern is still with the antenna location. According to AC 20-138, the FAA accuracy predictions assume a 5 degree "mask angle", which I am assuming to mean that the sky is obstructed from the horizon to 5 degrees above the horizon. I'm guessing yours will be more like 30 or 40 degrees through a significant azimuth arc in the forward direction. If I can find somebody that knows how to calculate the effects of the obstruction, we can try it that way. Otherwise we can do a ground test which would involve recording position data every 5 minutes for 24 hours to see if it stays within limits (.056 nm for non precision approach). This could probably be done automatically with a laptop P.C., so you wouldn't have to watch it the whole time. More stuff to think about. Jim >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML homepage: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html