Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 12:22:48 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from out003.verizon.net ([206.46.170.103] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 520413 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 06 Nov 2004 08:08:12 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.46.170.103; envelope-from=jeremyfisher@verizon.net Received: from Main ([4.7.30.213]) by out003.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20041106130740.KXAX3485.out003.verizon.net@Main> for ; Sat, 6 Nov 2004 07:07:40 -0600 From: "Jerry Fisher" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: RE: [LML] WG: Flap travel 360 outbackgear X-Original-Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 07:07:46 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out003.verizon.net from [4.7.30.213] at Sat, 6 Nov 2004 07:07:40 -0600 Christian Meier wrote: "In my planes I find a total flap travel of 47? -7? for Cruise and +40? Do I need this 47? of total travel? I have the outbackgear and the total travel of the flapmotor is 16cm But I cant get 47? out of these 16cm My pushrods to the flaps are a bit shorter than they should be. (All this because the rear Spar in 1" back... known problem with outbackgear) Do I need the -7? (flap up)for cruise? Do I need +40? (down) to land on a 2200 feet runway or will be 35? also fine How can I extend the travel with this flapmotor." Christian, Although the outback flap system is a simpler layout in principle, in practice it can be very hard to fit satisfactorily. I know, I fitted it 3 times before I got a decent fit. Part of the trouble is that some of the instructions and the plans are not compatible. In one place, the instructions tell you to go from reflex at 7 degrees up from the faired-in position to full down at 40 degrees, in other words a total travel of 47 degrees. So according to this the position where the flaps are in line with the fuselage shape is the 0 degree position. This is wrong for the 360, it is a throwback to the older 235 instructions, and has confused a lot of people, including me. The plans and other instuctions are correct, you need to measure from the faired-in position (which is 7 degrees of reflex) 8.75 inches down, measured at the trailing edge, which gives the correct angle. It is a tight fit, but can be done. And yes, you do need shorter pushrods. Jerry