Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 21:51:38 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-m17.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.207] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 478823 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:21:08 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.138.207; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-m17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id q.145.3639f1bf (4214) for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:20:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <145.3639f1bf.2ea698cb@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:20:27 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] KLN 89B Outputs X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1098202827" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 5000 -------------------------------1098202827 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 In a message dated 10/17/2004 5:38:17 PM Central Standard Time, =20 alainoireaux@club-internet.fr writes: Hi LML gang, does somebody know the answers to those questions ? 1=B0 I would like to install a Trutrak autopilot on my LNC2.I am seeking=20 informations about the GPSS fonction. Do I need to have ARINC format signal= or is=20 a serial RS 232 signal enough to use the GPSS fonction ? When reading the=20 Trutrak documents it is not clear and Trutrak does not answer to my questio= ns. 2=B0 I have a King KLN 89B GPS in my plane . I would like to transmit=20 navigation datas to a KMD 250,as a moving map,and to the Trutrak autopilot=20= . If I use=20 the KLN 89B ,P 891 #2 pin (labelled " General RS 232 Output") for datas to=20 the KMD 250,can I use the # 6 pin (labelled "Spare RS 232 Out") for nav dat= as=20 to the A/P ?I asked BendixKing about that problem but I am till waiting for= =20 the reply....! Many thanks for your help and best regards. Alain NOIREAUX L 320 Alain, =20 In general, AutoPilot guidance takes the following forms: =20 1. Left/Right course deviation. This is the same type of signal that drive= s=20 the CD indicator and either a VOR, Localizer or GPS may provide such a =20 signal to an A/P circuit that will try to keep the needle centered. Does a=20= =20 Tru-Trak interface to a Localizer signal or can it only fly GPS approaches?= =20 =20 2. GPS RS 232 data is usually output in the NMEA Text format and may contai= n=20 sentences that include Lat/Long, GS, and track deviation information. This= =20 information is the type that is interpreted by moving map computer programs= =20 and some autopilots that may use the track deviation data. Note that this i= s=20 only present position information. The Tru-Trak understands this as it is=20= the=20 same data produced by the simple Garmin (35? see Garmin.com) that can used=20 with the Tru-Trak.=20 =20 3. ARINC data is far more sophicated in its format. Especially since it ca= n=20 send steering data, both horizontally and vertically. The S-Tec GPSS=20 interface is to take ARINC data and change it into the same autopilot input=20= as that=20 from the DG and the bug on the DG. That is, the GPSS device converts ARINC= =20 data and either sends that or the DG information to the autopilot based on=20= a=20 switch setting. The ARINC data can be computed by the GPS unit to lead a=20 turn (direct future movement) based on your speed and ground track to the t= urn=20 waypoint. You would need to know if your GPS produces the ARINC data, I th= ink=20 that the Tru-Trak can understand it. =20 Scott Krueger AKA Grayhawk N92EX IO320 Aurora, IL (KARR) Some Assembly Required =20 Using Common Hand Tools. -------------------------------1098202827 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 10/17/2004 5:38:17 PM Central Standard Time,=20 alainoireaux@club-internet.fr writes:
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Hi LML gang,
does somebody know the answers to those q= uestions=20 ?
1=B0 I would like to install a Trutrak au= topilot on=20 my LNC2.I am seeking informations about the GPSS fonction. Do I need to ha= ve=20 ARINC format signal or is a serial RS 232 signal enough to use the GPSS=20 fonction ?  When reading the Trutrak documents it is not clear and=20 Trutrak does not answer to my questions.
2=B0 I have a King KLN 89B GPS in my plan= e . I=20 would like to transmit navigation datas to a KMD 250,as a moving map,and t= o=20 the Trutrak autopilot . If I use the KLN 89B ,P 891 #2 pin (labelled " Gen= eral=20 RS 232 Output") for datas to the KMD 250,can I use the # 6 pin (labelled=20 "Spare RS 232 Out") for nav datas to the A/P ?I asked BendixKing about tha= t=20 problem but I am till waiting for the reply....!
Many thanks for your help and best=20 regards.
Alain NOIREAUX   L=20 320
Alain,
 
In general, AutoPilot guidance takes the following forms:
 
1. Left/Right course deviation.  This is the same type of signal t= hat=20 drives the CD indicator and either a VOR, Localizer or GPS may provide such=20= a=20 signal to an A/P circuit that will try to keep the needle centered.  Do= es a=20 Tru-Trak interface to a Localizer signal or can it only fly GPS=20 approaches? 
 
2. GPS RS 232 data is usually output in the NMEA Text format and may=20 contain sentences that include Lat/Long, GS, and track deviation=20 information.  This information is the type that is interpreted by movin= g=20 map computer programs and some autopilots that may use the track deviation=20 data. Note that this is only present position information.  The=20 Tru-Trak understands this as it is the same data produced by the simple Garm= in=20 (35? see Garmin.com) that can used with the Tru-Trak. 
 
3. ARINC data is far more sophicated in its format.  Especially si= nce=20 it can send steering data, both horizontally and vertically.  The S-Tec= =20 GPSS interface is to take ARINC data and change it into the same autopilot i= nput=20 as that from the DG and the bug on the DG.  That is, the GPSS device=20 converts ARINC data and either sends that or the DG information to the autop= ilot=20 based on a switch setting.  The ARINC data can be computed by the GPS u= nit=20 to lead a turn (direct future movement) based on your speed and ground=20 track to the turn waypoint.  You would need to know if your GPS produce= s=20 the ARINC data, I think that the Tru-Trak can understand it.
 
Scott Krueger=20 AKA Grayhawk
N92EX IO320 Aurora, IL (KARR)

Some Assembly Required=20
Using Common Hand Tools.
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