Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:42:56 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [32.97.166.52] (HELO prserv.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 478195 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 00:54:05 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=32.97.166.52; envelope-from=mhutchins@attglobal.net Received: from marauder (67-40-50-126.dnvr.qwest.net[67.40.50.126]) by prserv.net (asmtp2) with SMTP id <2004101904533525205ge6fve> (Authid: atp01); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 04:53:35 +0000 From: "Mike Hutchins" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" Subject: Keeping Ada Cooling Cool X-Original-Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:53:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-Index: AcS0+0T26epiCjhITvSkxr5LxOm8MwAloGHw In-Reply-To: X-Original-Message-ID: Hi Lynn, I have a couple of comments/questions about the current configuration of Andy and Darryl's cooling system. These are relevant in that I believe their installation is significantly different from most designs utilized by the members of this list. 1. On Race 33, they use updraft intercoolers that exhaust air from blisters on top of the cowling. Thus the exhaust air from the intercoolers does not contribute to increased backpressure under the engine which may interfere with flow through the cylinder head cooling fins. On the other hand, the blisters may add to the overall cooling drag of the installation through increased frontal area in the high-velocity, high drag region of the propwash. 2. The 2 cowl inlet openings are considerably larger than on a stock Legacy. This will also increase cooling drag. 3. In 2002, I know that Andy and Darryl were spraying a significant amount of liquid into the top of the plenum to keep the cylinders cool. Do you know if they are still using air and liquid to cool the engine? Based on the above comments, I would suggest that their installation likely has MORE drag than a stock installation rather than less. I suspect their excess cooling margin is derived more from larger inlets and potentially larger TOTAL outlet area, the benefits of liquid spray evaporative cooling, higher indicated air speeds, and, possibly larger/more efficient intercoolers. I'm not denying the success of Andy and Darryl's race effort. They have done a tremendous job and have achieved great success in a short period of time. But maybe the keys to their success are not lower cooling drag, but rather, a very high performance engine coupled to an already very low-drag airframe piloted by one of the best race pilots ever to fly at Reno. From the data presented at Ada on engine cooling, it is the dogged attention to detail design that pays the dividends when it comes to keeping our engines cool. The only real benefit to a plenum, besides looking totally cool, is that you have eliminated possible leakage paths for the incoming air. The downside is that you have a reduced volume in which to decelerate the high-velocity low-pressure air into a more useful, lower drag, low-velocity high-pressure air source. Best Regards, Mike Hutchins