Return-Path: Received: from [161.88.255.139] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.2.2) with HTTP id 426825 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:31:54 -0400 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: [LML] Re: So Has Anybody Fully Stalled These Things? To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.2.2 Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 11:31:54 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for "Phil Hildebrand" : We had the same problem with our ES. The plane wanted to roll to the right and the force on the stick to overcome the roll increased significantly with speed. We also changed the incidence and solved the roll problem. We did our stall testing prior to correcting the wing incidence. If I remember correctly we stalled the airplane by maintaining altitude and slowly reducing power until the airspeed decreased to the stall speed. We tried no flap to full flap and the numbers corresponded to the Lancair figures. We kept the wings level entering the stall and there was no roll tendency at all. I was with an instructor that has over 10000 hours and he did not comment that the airplane performed different than he expected. Between myself and Jeff we did over 20 stalls and in all cases the stall came gently and it was very noticeable on the stick pressure when it was starting. We do not have stall strips, stall warning, or an AOA system installed. We do however have two airspeed indications. My opinion is that the type of flying that you do with an ES does not require an AOA system. It is clearly designed to be a great cross country machine and that's it. We fly it that way and maintain the proper airspeeds. Philip Hildebrand Lancair ES C-GSPH 50 hours plus and loving it.