Return-Path: Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.38]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52269U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 20:56:03 -0400 Received: from ckrouse_ra.spk.hp.com ([12.73.182.38]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.06 118-133) with SMTP id <19990612005856.WNNJ11165@ckrouse_ra.spk.hp.com> for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 00:58:56 +0000 Message-ID: <000c01beb46d$b5a6e040$26b6490c@ckrouse_ra.spk.hp.com> Reply-To: "Curtis Krouse" From: "Curtis Krouse" To: Subject: Re: methylene chloride supplier Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 17:51:28 -0700 X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> I have been using MC from a paint store. I paid about $25 for a gallon and the only other additive that I can determine from the container is acetone. Since acetone is another solvent that has been approved for use, I thought that the risk was minimal. Since it takes a while from cleaning to actual laying of the laminate, I feel that any flash off of the solvent has been well done by the time that my layup is actually ready. Another point is that in the instructions the preparation is clean first, then lightly sand the surfaces and then remove the dust by clean rag or vacumn. I don't think that any other chemicals are left on the surface after that. It has proven to be an effective cleaning agent so far. Of course, the proof will be over a period of time or in the air. My question would be that the MC from the paint store with only an acetone additive is pretty snotty stuff. It seems to be very thick and syrupy. Is this right? Since I have never seen MC before I have no idea. The MC from the paint store is "paint stripper" and I remember from past experience that paint stripper is pretty thick stuff. But, I don't know what pure MC is like. Can someone tell me? Curtis Krouse N753K [Pure methylene chloride has the viscosity of straight acetone, IOW, it should run like water. The MC paint stripper has a thickening agent in it similar to cornstarch to make it sticky so it adheres to the surface being stripped and to slow the evaporation. This is definitely _NOT_ what you want to use to clean your composites prior to bonding. Straight MC flashes off in seconds (it is what used to be used as refrigerant back in the good old days before someone discovered freon) and leaves no residue except for whatever it may have dissolved and didn't get carried away during the wiping process. If you can't locate straight MC locally I believe the factory has approved acetone as an alternate solvent... you would be much better off using that than that gooey paint stripper. ] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML homepage: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html