Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 09:58:55 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.4] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.2) with ESMTP id 426551 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 07:13:08 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.137.4; envelope-from=RicArgente@cs.com Received: from RicArgente@cs.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.7.) id q.13d.2218330 (4410) for ; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 07:12:30 -0400 (EDT) From: RicArgente@cs.com X-Original-Message-ID: <13d.2218330.2e84099e@cs.com> X-Original-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 07:12:30 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Formation Flying X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_13d.2218330.2e84099e_boundary" X-Mailer: 6.0 for Windows XP sub 50 --part1_13d.2218330.2e84099e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 09/23/2004 12:13:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, ckohler1@cfl.rr.com writes: > Charlie, With all due respect, the accident report you posted describes an 'aerobatic routine', hardly the type of formation flying that the clinics we are organizing will be conducting. As Barry mentioned in his recent post, "There's a substantial difference between seeing how close you can put your plane to someone else's, and being in position. If you want to be close, go start a formation aerobatics team. If you want to enjoy the wonderful world of formation flying safely and minimize the risk, it can be done with proper training.". Believe me when I say that I understand your concerns and warnings with regard to the risk with formation flying. And this is one of the main reasons for having formation flying clinics, minimize the risk while continue to have fun, safely, with our airplanes. Personally, I like the thrill and excitement of flying close (but not too close) to another Lancair or another airplane. There are other folks who share the same feelings and are currently formation flying with other pilots...but maybe without the proper training. We are hoping that these same individuals either get proper training from experienced pilots themselves or attend one of the clinics we are organizing. Rick Argente --part1_13d.2218330.2e84099e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message=20= dated 09/23/2004 12:13:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, ckohler1@cfl.rr.com writ= es:


Was this flight not up to S= tandards??



Charlie,

With all due respect, the accident report you posted describes an 'aerob= atic routine', hardly the type of formation flying that the clinics we are o= rganizing will be conducting.  As  Barry mentioned in his recent p= ost, "There's a substantial difference between seeing how close you can p= ut your plane to someone else's, and being in position.   If you w= ant to  be close, go start a formation aerobatics team.  If you wa= nt to enjoy  the wonderful world of formation flying safely and minimiz= e the risk,  it can be done with proper training.".  

Believe me when I say that I understand  your concerns and warnings= with regard to the risk with formation flying.  And this is one of the= main reasons for having formation flying clinics, minimize the risk while c= ontinue to have fun, safely, with our airplanes.  

Personally, I like the thrill and excitement of flying close (but not to= o close) to another Lancair or another airplane.  There are other folks= who share the same feelings and are currently formation flying with other p= ilots...but maybe without the proper training.  We are hoping that thes= e same individuals either get proper training from experienced pilots themse= lves or attend one of the clinics we are organizing.  

Rick Argente --part1_13d.2218330.2e84099e_boundary--