Return-Path: Received: from [65.33.87.139] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.1.8) with HTTP id 2974767 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 04 Feb 2004 03:43:03 -0500 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: [LML] static charge and shop vac To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.1.8 Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 03:43:03 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <00ac01c3eadf$36f972f0$8c0cb1cf@denny63ea7z29i> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for "Denny" : Roy S. is a professional welder who has electric arc welded many steel gas tanks utilizing the shop vac method over more than 40 years. Of course that doesn't prove that he was in absolutely no danger, or lucky either. Until I become familiar with a more effective method though, I believe I'd trust his experience. However, with a respectful nod to the concerns expressed here, I'd consider doing two things that I haven't seen Roy do. 1. Dissipate any possible static charge before taking the vac close to the tank, using the precautions recommended for use in plane refueling. 2. Lower the concentration of the first vapors to pass through the vac by introducing compressed air deep in the tank for a short period prior to taking the vac tube close to the tank opening. I'm confident that once the vac was running the concentration of vapors in the heavy flow of air through it would be very low. I suppose I could just stick a hundred foot garden hose in the tank and adapt it to the vac sitting way outside the shop too. Too simple.