Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:00:47 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.8] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 2772850 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:15:22 -0500 Received: from Tubamanflies@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id q.d4.8c782 (4206) for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:15:17 -0500 (EST) From: Tubamanflies@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:15:16 EST Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Help wanted with rudder/aileron trim tabs X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d4.8c782.2cf574c4_boundary" X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6024 --part1_d4.8c782.2cf574c4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill, These are just my opinions so take them with a grain of salt. Rudder trim is not worth the effort. I have a tab on my rudder but I have never had to adjust it. If you do need to adjust it it will probably only once. That is why just a tab works on so many planes. You could probably just "miss rig" the rudder when centered to center the ball. The aileron trim on my 360 is just a hinged tab 3/4" by about 5". To test how well it worked I flew the plane as unbalanced as I could get it. No fuel in the right tank, left tank full, 200" pilot. It only took about 1/2 the travel to level the wings. Most of the time I only move the tab a very small amout. If I need to fly for a long distance with wings level I use the autopilot. The aileron tab you are talking about is too big to start with. Trying to make it like the elevator tab is a nice idea but I think you will find that the size and shape of the aileron will make the job dificult at best. If you really want to get away from a tab maybe think about making them like spoilers that come out of the aileron surface on both sides. Enough of my two cents. Ray Gardner --part1_d4.8c782.2cf574c4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bill,

These are just my opinions so take them with a grain of salt.

Rudder trim is not worth the effort.  I have a tab on my rudder but I h= ave never had to adjust it.  If you do need to adjust it it will probab= ly only once.  That is why just a tab works on so many planes.  Yo= u could probably just "miss rig" the rudder when centered to center the ball= . 

The aileron trim on my 360 is just a hinged tab 3/4" by about 5".  To t= est how well it worked I flew the plane as unbalanced as I could get it.&nbs= p; No fuel in the right tank, left tank full, 200" pilot.  It only took= about 1/2 the travel to level the wings.  Most of the time I only move= the tab a very small amout.  If I need to fly for a long distance with= wings level I use the autopilot.

The aileron tab you are talking about is too big to start with.  Trying= to make it like the elevator tab is a nice idea but I think you will find t= hat the size and shape of the aileron will make the job dificult at best.&nb= sp; If you really want to get away from a tab maybe think about making them=20= like spoilers that come out of the aileron surface on both sides.

Enough of my two cents.

Ray Gardner --part1_d4.8c782.2cf574c4_boundary--