Return-Path: Received: from [24.50.193.42] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.1.3) with HTTP id 2587076 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 20 Sep 2003 17:07:53 -0400 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Legacy accident To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.1.3 Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 17:07:53 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <628A7A50-EB2B-11D7-AB05-00039367208C@cableone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for Don Morris : Ron, Sorry for your loss. Amen, to the below email. Once in the Air Force years ago I lost airspeed and altimeter while taking off in an F-4 at night in very heavy rain. Water had gotten into the pitot static system. You have to know your airplane so when systems fail you have a feel for airspeed etc. I fortunately knew what power setting it took to hold a certain speed. I also had AOA to help. When another airplane joined on me I was two knots slow of 300kts, which was join up speed. According, to an FAA study more pilots get hurt by aborting a perfectly flyable airplane while trying to stop. It is human nature to want to stop when a problem occurs. It takes discipline and "what am I going to do if......... thinking" to be prepared when things don't go as planned. Airline pilots do a takeoff briefing before every takeoff to cover "what-ifs" so the procedures are fresh in their minds. I have never seen an airplane that wouldn't fly with the air flowing over the wing and zero on the airspeed indicator. The airplane doesn't care what the airspeed reads on the indicator---it does, however, care greatly about the speed of the air flowing over the wing. One more comment then I will get of my soap box. When I wash my 360, I put tape over the static ports ( A GREAT BIG PIECE WITH ABOUT A YARD OF TAPE HANGING DOWN so I won't forget to see it. You must feel sick about losing a great airplane. The fact you survived says a lot about your flying ability and the strength of the airplane. Thank you for having the courage to let us all know what you did. Learning from an error is very important, thanks. Respectfully, Don Morris N24KB > What a heartbreak! You have my deepest sympathies > Do you ever practice flying without an airspeed gauge?