Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 11:39:19 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [216.229.64.74] (HELO mail.fidnet.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1b9) with SMTP id 2478741 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 10:18:48 -0400 Received: (qmail 24953 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2003 14:18:32 -0000 Received: from 216-229-95-162-empty.fidnet.com (HELO shannon) (216.229.95.162) by four.fidnet.com with SMTP; 18 Jul 2003 14:18:31 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Shannon Knoepflein" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Essential Buss versus Fuel Endurance X-Original-Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 10:16:22 -0400 Organization: ISC X-Original-Message-ID: <00a801c34d37$2e2bfa80$0700a8c0@shannon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Jeff, if you would like to continue this discussion and keep it grounded (pun intended) in physics, then by all means let's do it....maybe we'll all learn something from it. If you can prove or show that this system (dual alt/dual batt with continued operation with one alternator out on essential buss)is unsafe in any way, please do so. I still hold that I'm better than 90% of the spam cans flying using Bob's Z14 even with one alternator out on the essential buss. Show me I'm wrong so I can improve it immediately. Sorry, you calling me a "punk" certainly doesn't prove anything. Also, we are all here to try and help each other. If we can have logical discussions about issues at hand, we can all learn from them and develop better systems. However, name calling and making statements without physics or factual data to back it up accomplishes little. All it shows me is that you probably know very little about this subject, and are stuck regurgitating 50 year old information and old wives tales. We have the opportunity in our OBAM ships to do it better and do it the right way. I'm committed to doing that, AND to showing others how to also, all in the name of safety. If you have legitimate safety concerns, then by all means, let's hear them. Please don't make this into a pissing contest. This is about learning, not fighting. --- Shannon Knoepflein <---> kycshann@kyol.net SNIP>>For those that felt I was off in left field when I said I felt we should design our electrical systems to outlast our fuel endurance with alternator out, here is a direct quote from BobN about this very subject:>> SNIP You said>>> I am also reminded of a quote regarding a subject very similar to this one: Clint Eastwood in "Dirty Harry"-- "Do you feel lucky, punk?"