Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #19570
From: Janie & Ed Smith <2luv2fly@cox.net>
Sender: Marvin Kaye <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: IV-P Door Blowout
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 22:20:42 -0400
To: <lml>
7/13/03
Sunday Evening
 
Pat,
 
A friend of mine, Dennis Pratt, had a similar door problem apx. 3 years ago.  His problem did not originate in the window area (bolt passing thru window) but was a result of a bad hysol bond between the door skin and the door stiffener in the forward lower corner of the door.  When the bond separated, the door flexed and subsequently caused the window to crack with similar results to what you described on your IV-P.  Dennis' window punctured the top layer of carbon and honeycomb in a couple of places on the top of the wing - no damage to his flap.  When we started dissecting the door to get access to the hardware components we found several places that did not have complete hysol contact.  This was an incident that was just "waiting to happen". 
 
I don't think you will be able to salvage the door stiffener and door skin because everything should be completely bonded together and I feel like you would spend more time trying to separate the parts.  My recommendation is to order the new skin and stiffener along with the window.   This is what I did with Dennis' repair.  The biggest problem we had with his repair was making the new stiffener fit the door opening.  In order to maintain the 1/2 inch gap required between the stiffener and the door frame (gap required for the inflatable seal), we had to cut the stiffener and push out in several places to obtain the 1/2 inch gap.  I am not familiar with the recommendation to oversize the bolt holes passing thru the window and fill them with silicone.  We counterbored the bolt holes apx. 3/4 inch in diameter and filled them with hysol as outlined in chapter 28 of the manual.  In my "opinion", the silicone doesn't offer any support for the fasteners.  This in itself may have placed undue stress on the glass.
 
Dennis has over 800 hours on his IV-P (he travels a lot) and I'm certain he has over 300 hours since the repair.  For what it's worth, I just finished assembling the door on my IV-P about two months ago and it took about 3 weeks of work.  We still have to fit the latch hardware which will be completed after gluing the top half on the plane and then, of course, the finish work.  All in all, I estimate my door will take about half the time it took to build Dennis'.  This certainly adds validity to "the second one is always easier". 
 
Regards,
 
Ed Smith
Chesapeake, VA
 
 
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