Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 23:33:47 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from out003.verizon.net ([206.46.170.103] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1b2) with ESMTP id 2110726 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 08 Apr 2003 22:35:22 -0400 Received: from tgourley ([4.46.206.82]) by out003.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030409023521.CTDD28543.out003.verizon.net@tgourley> for ; Tue, 8 Apr 2003 21:35:21 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <000601c2fe40$c33cd0e0$650610ac@dslverizon.net> Reply-To: "Tom Gourley" From: "Tom Gourley" X-Original-To: Subject: RE: FG Legacy vs. RV-7A X-Original-Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 19:36:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C2FE06.15C0A200" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out003.verizon.net from [4.46.206.82] at Tue, 8 Apr 2003 21:35:11 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C2FE06.15C0A200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some comments on the comparison of the Lancair Sport (FG Legacy) and the = RV-7A. The kit price of $17,000 for the 7A is for the standard kit. The quick = build is $25,050. =20 Van's site says the standard RV-7A should take about 1800 hours to = build, the quick build (they claim) should be roughly half that. (Never = heard of one being built that fast.) Why such a high estimate (2500 = hours) for building the Sport? I would think it should be faster to = build than the Legacy. My guess is the Sport and the fast build 7A will = take about the same amount of time to build. Need to be more specific on the engine comparison. An IO-360 could be a = 200 hp angle valve or a 180 hp parallel valve. I live in the heart of = RV country (Van belongs to the same EAA chapter that I do -- 105) and = I've found that a lot of RV builders go for used engines, either running = them for a while as is or doing a lot of overhaul work themselves. If = you do the same with the sport the engine cost should come out the same = for either aircraft, and potentially a lot less than the $38,500 shown = in the comparison. Used angle valve IO-360s are probably easier to come = by than the parallel valve. The angle valve was used in a lot of = production aircraft and has not been in nearly as much demand, so far, = in the kit market as the parallel valve. So, using the same engine, same prop, same panel, same paint, the only = real cost difference should be the airframe kit. If you compare with = the fastbuild -7A that's a difference of $7850. The -7A is a darn good = airplane, but I'd rather build, and fly, the Lancair. Tom Gourley Banks, OR L2K #122 tom.gourley@verizon.net ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C2FE06.15C0A200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Some comments on the comparison of = the Lancair=20 Sport (FG Legacy) and the RV-7A.
 
The kit price of $17,000 for the 7A is = for the=20 standard kit.  The quick build is $25,050. 
 
Van's site says the standard RV-7A = should take=20 about 1800 hours to build, the quick build (they claim) should be = roughly=20 half that. (Never heard of one being built that fast.)  Why = such a=20 high estimate (2500 hours) for building the Sport?  I would think = it should=20 be faster to build than the Legacy.  My guess is the Sport and the = fast=20 build 7A will take about the same amount of time to build.
 
Need to be more specific on the engine=20 comparison.  An IO-360 could be a 200 hp angle valve or a 180 hp = parallel=20 valve.  I live in the heart of RV country (Van belongs to the same = EAA=20 chapter that I do -- 105) and I've found that a lot of RV = builders go=20 for used engines, either running them for a while as is or doing a lot = of=20 overhaul work themselves.  If you do the same with the sport the = engine=20 cost should come out the same for either aircraft, and potentially a lot = less=20 than the $38,500 shown in the comparison.  Used angle valve IO-360s = are=20 probably easier to come by than the parallel valve.  The angle = valve was=20 used in a lot of production aircraft and has not been in nearly as much = demand,=20 so far, in the kit market as the parallel valve.
 
So, using the same engine, same = prop, same=20 panel, same paint, the only real cost difference should be the airframe=20 kit.  If you compare with the fastbuild -7A that's a difference of=20 $7850.  The -7A is a darn good airplane, but I'd rather build, and = fly, the=20 Lancair.
 
Tom Gourley
Banks, OR
L2K #122
tom.gourley@verizon.net
 
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