Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 22:02:32 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.38] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1b2) with ESMTP id 2092871 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 30 Mar 2003 18:17:57 -0500 Received: from StarAerospace@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.21.) id q.1d8.6653c72 (4340) for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2003 18:17:52 -0500 (EST) From: StarAerospace@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <1d8.6653c72.2bb8d520@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2003 18:17:52 EST Subject: Re: [LML] Substituting GPS for DME X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 If the approach requires a DME arc or DME distance fixes and does not have an approved GPS or GPS/ARNAV (advanced area navigation, to be required at the upper FL's in 2005), you're stuck. The FAA has started creating GPS based equivalent approaches to substitute for all approaches in (supposedly) the following priority: 1. NDB 2. VOR 3. VOR/DME 4. ILS (this will require WAAS and may still only be good for Cat 1) IOW, if you typically fly where they clear you to a DME approach and they don't list a GPS equivalent, you need a DME. If you have the panel space, a used KNS-80 can be had for ~$1000. Yes, the RNAV is pretty useless by today's standards, but that's a cheap price for a DME/VOR/LOC/GS. Eric Ahlstrom