Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 15:38:28 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.100] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.5) with ESMTP id 2007036 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 14:36:47 -0500 Received: from AVIDWIZ@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id q.75.8dcbc62 (3850) for ; Sun, 2 Feb 2003 14:36:42 -0500 (EST) From: AVIDWIZ@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <75.8dcbc62.2b6ecd4a@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 14:36:42 EST Subject: IVP Loss of Pressurization at 17,000 Feet X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 7 Gentlemen: This incident happened a couple of months ago and I have not reported it yet as I just finished determining the real cause. Climbing thru 17,000 feet south of Lake Tahoe I was sitting in the right seat flying with a friend in the left seat. He has 30 hrs IVP time as PIC and everything was going just fine ... I was feeling fat, dumb and happy. The cabin altitude light came on and he asked "whats that mean" I started to tell him it ment the cabin was at 10,000 feet and I looked down at the pressure controller to see what was up when WHUMPHHH the cabin dumped pressure. At this point while still Fat and Dumb...I was no longer Happy ! Don the Oxugen Masks, Declare a Maday, reverse course to Tahoe, get on the ground and trouble shoot. We were able to pressureize the cabin on the ground to 2PSI with run up power and it seemed to hold. Flew home, checked all potential leak points, replaced a bunch of parts in the door seal pump/dump valve etc. Discovered the problem was human error. The door on this IVP and for that matter the only other one I ever flew required that the first latch be well over center and in order to do so, you would hear two distinct clicks. One when first closed and the second when a little more pressure was applied to the handle. What happened is the first latch was not fully seated to the second click and at altitude, the door seal could not stay large enough to bridge the gap. It was leaking (thus accounting for the slow leak and the rising cabin) and finally the size of the gap became large enough and the building pressure strong enough to vent the cabin entirely. Moral to the story: Make SURE the cabin door is FULLY latched. Check it twice. And imagine how this would have played out if the failure had happened at FL 250 and not at 17,000 MSL Hope this saves somebody some drama some day Dave Riggs