Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 21:27:54 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.104] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.2) with ESMTP id 1890702 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:24:22 -0500 Received: from Newlan2dl@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id q.70.26e503e1 (3996) for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:24:18 -0500 (EST) From: Newlan2dl@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <70.26e503e1.2b17b952@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:24:18 EST Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Body Work X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10637 Hi Bob On those spider cracks, were they on top of the cored areas or on the solid laminates? And was that near a hot spot on the engine? If it happened on top of the cored area, I'd router out the core, laminate in a couple layers of tape, recore with high temp. epoxy/ microballoons/fumed silica (Cabosil) then retape over it. If it's on the solid laminate, is there something poking it from underneath that's stressing it? Check that first. If not, you need to take off the old repair fabric and try some more layers of tape but I would use carbon fabric in the plus/minus 45 degree and zero- ninety degree orientations. And you will have to grind out most or all of the old bad structure since that has apparently fractured anyway. If it's thin skinned, you may have to do this in two steps. Laminate in the repair tapes and once hard (but preferably not cured), grind out the old material all the way down to the newly laminated repair tapes. Essentially, the repair tapes are used as a form and you end up with all new material in the area. Anyway, it is important to give it several different fiber orientations. This will give it quasi-isotropic strength. Use a high performance toughened epoxy like Applied Poleramic's DR-5 or hi temp DR-7, and lastly, vacuum bag and peel ply it. This will give more fiber for the thickness and with the toughened epoxy, be a LOT more crack resistant. For carbon fabric, here are a number of outlets but you can get 5.7 oz plain weave from Svendsens Marine at (510) 522-7860 and they can ship. Applied Poleramic is in Benicia, Ca. (925) area code but I don't have their number here. They do sell gallon quantities and they are pretty reasonable in price. Dan Newland