Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 19:36:38 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtprelay1.dc3.adelphia.net ([24.50.78.4] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.1) with ESMTP id 1885108 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 10:20:41 -0500 Received: from worldwinds ([207.175.254.66]) by smtprelay1.dc3.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id H61BYF04.11M for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2002 10:20:39 -0500 From: "Gary Casey" X-Original-To: "lancair list" Subject: Engine care and feeding X-Original-Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 07:17:57 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 <<> Piston ring flutter - the design of the compression ring/piston groove presumes there will always be a downward load on the ring to keep it seated, this load being generated by positive pressure in the cylinder. Windmilling the engine with a low power setting can reduce cylinder pressures such that the compression rings are unloaded and begin to "flutter" in the ring grooves. ... > Crankshaft counterweight detuning - this doesn't apply to us 4-cylinder drivers, cuz we don't have counterweights.... If there is little or no power in the power stroke and RPM is still in the normal operating range, the counterweights suddenly become unemployed (or underemployed, actually) and flop around with nothing to do .. the Jake-Brake idea is probably not a good solution. I guess we'll just have to accept that we can't come screaming into the downwind at 175 knots and expect to drop the rollers at the 180! By the way, as several others on the list have said, the Sky Ranch Engineering Manual is an excellent resource>> I certainly agree that it is an excellent resource - but not perfect. It contains a combination of experienced-based and theoretical information, sometimes combined inappropriately, in my opinion. For instance, "fluttering" in the ring grooves? I doubt it, as the ring tension is what holds the rings against the cylinder, and half the piston strokes are with no pressure against them anyway. Bottom line is that running the engine at high rpm with no load really doesn't do anything bad - probably doesn't do anything particularly good either. The book has a good discussion about the pendulum-type tuned absorbers up to a point. Incidentally, the "6" in the Lycoming engine suffix indicates that it has these devices and as far as I know all the spread-valve 4 cylinder and all 6 cylinder engines have them. They are better than a fixed-frequency tuned absorber as used in car engines in that they can absorb different frequencies at different rpms. And his book is right in that the frequency they absorb is dependant on the relative diameter of the pins and bushings, so if either wears significantly the tuned frequency will change, possibly precipitating a crank failure. They don't bring the torsional vibration amplitude to zero as the book implies, but they can take out up to 90% of amplitude. What's all this have to do with running the engine at high rpm at no load? Nothing, as the weights certainly don't "flop around", but instead are held in place by centrifugal (centripetal to be precise) loads just as they are with the engine under power. The only time these weights flop around is when turning the prop by hand or cranking the engine. There are only a couple of disadvantages of closing the throttle and running the rpm up. Aircraft engines have relatively loose piston and valve guide clearances and the high vacuum during the intake stroke can suck in more oil that you would like, possibly fouling the plugs and prevent the engine from re-starting back when you open the throttle. Also, the engine will cool down a lot, creating high thermal stresses when you re-start it. I say "re-start it" because the engine will cease to fire with a closed throttle above maybe 1500 rpm. So what do you do if you want to make a max-rate descent? Depends on whether you want the engine available at the end of the descent or not. If you do, then pull the mixture to shut the engine off, run the rpm to max and keep the throttle wide open. This helps to prevent too much oil from entering the cylinders and at the end of the descent just push the mixture back in and it will re-start. If you aren't going to need the engine (??) then keep the throttle closed as the friction horsepower (actually pumping loss) is higher with a closed throttle than with an open one. As for shock cooling damage, you can worry about that when safely on the ground. Of course, I would hesitate to pull the mixture in the air regardless, but sometimes you do what you need to do - like if you had a passenger with a heart attack. Gary Casey