Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:16:45 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtprelay2.dc3.adelphia.net ([24.50.78.5] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.1) with ESMTP id 1880933 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 09:11:45 -0500 Received: from worldwinds ([207.175.254.66]) by smtprelay2.dc3.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id H5RZFF0B.302 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 09:11:39 -0500 From: "Gary Casey" X-Original-To: "lancair list" Subject: ES brake effectiveness X-Original-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 06:09:18 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal <> You're exactly right in my opinion - you always should be able to lock the wheels. I think this subject is more than trivial as I believe it is a significant safety issue. For example, if you land with one wheel locked - or tire flat, or wheel off in soft dirt...you want to be able to easily apply maximum braking to the other side. The effort required to apply maximum braking (lock the wheels) depends on the coefficient of friction and the "pedal ratio", or the ratio between the master cylinder area, including the mechanical advantage, and the total area of the wheel cylinders. Some things are difficult to change others more difficult. Changing to a pad material that has a higher coefficient probably isn't the answer as most high-coefficient materials also wear faster and you're already complaining about excessive wear. A metallic or ceramic material might help, but I doubt it - and generally you trade pad wear for rotor wear. I assume you aren't complaining about a spongy pedal as that will only increase pedal travel, not undermine brake effectiveness. On the ES rudder cable stretch will feel like pedal compliance (are there any testimonials out there for the effectiveness of gears on the pedal shafts?). There could be mechanical friction in the master cylinder, but the linkage is pretty simple and not likely to bind up. I don't know if there are larger caliper piston diameters available, but the next step is to reduce the diameter of the master cylinders or shorten the lever arm on the pedals. I am just getting to that stage of construction so am interested in any comments from the experts and the experienced. Gary Casey