Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net> (Marvin Kaye)
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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 11:00:53 -0400
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From: "Shannon Knoepflein" <kycshann@kyol.net>
Subject: RE: [LML] FADEC
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I didn't say "they" were dumb at all.  I just said they think "we" are
too dumb.  Also, I think that any truly revolutionary product would
stick to its guns and develop it to its fullest potential.  Them staying
"within the envelop" is very disappointing to me, and shows me they just
want to pad their pocketbooks.  They, just like George at GAMI, have all
the hardware and knowledge (their system will also take inputs from
pressure transducers or knock sensors, but "they don't feel the need at
this time") to do the system right....however, Aerosance/Cont is wimping
out and just doing it half-arsss........truly disappointing when they
have the technology and knowledge.  That's my gripe with them.

And, competition spawns invention.....so, if they were going at it "full
out", the resulting products from the competition between them and GAMI
could be incredible.

All in all, just disappointing.

I'm not at all disappointed in the scope and design of the PRISM.  The
stuff it tries to do (the important stuff IMHO), it does RIGHT, not
half-arssed.

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Shannon Knoepflein   <--->   kycshann@kyol.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of
Gary Casey
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 10:30 AM
To: Lancair Mailing List
Subject: [LML] FADEC

<<Obviously they could if they wanted to, but I don't think they ever
will, as they still think we are all too dumb.  Maybe some day.  I asked
them at OSH specifically just that, and they said they didn't have any
plans for it, and followed with some incoherent mumbling as to why,
which I promptly ignored.>>

I think you're giving Continental a bum rap with the complaints on how
the
FADEC is calibrated.  They are trying to certify the system and if they
show
that the engine is operated within the existing operators instructions
they
only have to prove reliability of the system.  If they operate the
engine
"outside the envelop" then they will likely have to also prove the
durability of the engine - and in the worst case that might be each
engine
and airframe combination.  So I think they are just being prudent in
getting
it certified with the least unknowns.  For those like me that want to
operate LOP that is disappointing, but probably not caused by them just
being too dumb to see the light.

Gary Casey
Lycoming operator at the moment


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