Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 21:40:31 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.99] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0b1) with ESMTP id 1242023 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 19 May 2002 20:33:01 -0400 Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id q.156.e1aa90c (4411) for ; Sun, 19 May 2002 20:32:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <156.e1aa90c.2a199e3b@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 20:32:59 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Re: The Flight of Two Madmen - Gear Electraulics! X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10500 Larry, You are right. In this case, Arnie (like many others) wired his relay power thru a "Miscellaneous" breaker and cannot afford to pull it if he pulls the motor power breaker. Since he had an irritating slow leak in his electraulics system, he would pull the only the motor breaker for great lengths of time on the ground during taxi, but this would only affect the "down" part of the system. It is possible that the failed pressure switch would keep the "up" relay engaged, but we all know when the pump is running in flight. Perhaps he unknowingly had the motor breaker pulled during our 2.3 hour flight to OGD. In any event, I have tried to get Lancair to alter their wiring diagram for years, but to no avail. The safest way to wire your electraulic system is to wire the relay power breaker, fuse or inline fuse after the motor power breaker. This way, when the motor breaker is pulled, all the power is taken off the complete system. An additional consideration is that the "pump running" indicator light is powered off the motor relay contacts. A short in the indicator light circuit would be presenting 50 or 60 amps to a 20 or 22 gauge wire with no protection. I can smell the wires burning now. This circuit from both relays should be diode isolated and fused. The Legacy circuit at least uses very small diodes (no fuse) and one would hope they would pop before the fire started. Gentlemen, fix your electraulic system now! Note: The term "Electraulic" used to describe our electric-hydraulic system is the invention of Tom Giddings. I love it and the English language, a language as malleable as a piece of soft aluminum. Scott Krueger N92EX