Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 11:10:48 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [64.38.64.28] (HELO mail1.pe.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0b1) with ESMTP id 1236233 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 13 May 2002 10:22:33 -0400 Received: from ieee.org (IP-91-081.gst.pe.net [64.38.91.81]) by mail1.pe.net (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g4DEMXD07969 for ; Mon, 13 May 2002 07:22:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Message-ID: <3CDFCC2B.6806611A@ieee.org> X-Original-Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 07:22:35 -0700 From: "Charles R. Patton" Reply-To: charles.r.patton@ieee.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-To: " (Lancair Mailing List)" Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Diodes References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Walter Dodson wrote: > If it won't work turn it around. I respectfully suggest that the diode is dead, or certainly suspect from stress, if mis-installed backwards. Either the fuse/circuit breaker or diode or both will blow as the diode will provide a short with many times its current rating to flow, either shorting it (the typical result) or blowing it open (much rarer). Also to be a bit picky, the coil inductance is in henries, not mhos. Also on a previous post someone mentioned that the BEMF causes a big pulse of current. Not exactly. Once the current starts flowing, as was subsequently described correctly, it wants to continue to flow (described as "inertia"). The consequence of this is that an attempt to cut the circuit abruptly, such as a switch, causes the coil to generate a large *voltage* spike in an attempt to keep that same current flowing -- not a larger current spike. That voltage spike then can jump the opening contacts of the switch causing an arc which results in a small bit of metal being vaporized. After many hundreds or thousands of operations the contact has been vaporized all over the inside of the switch. If you draw a circuit and change the conditions on a coil from a voltage drop, such as an energized coil, to a battery as it attempts to maintain current flow, you'll see the polarity reverses on the coil. That is why the diode works. In its normal condition it is back-biased, blocking current flow through itself. When the circuit is interrupted, and the coil attempts to maintain current flow, the coil voltage reverses, and the current that was flowing is now carried by the diode. The resistance in the coil and the diode then gradually dissipate the stored energy (in the magnetic field). As in many things, the good effects are not totally free. There is at least one downside to the diode suppression approach. The release time on the relay is delayed, for as the diode continues to conduct, it is just as if the original current was flowing, and it will be held in until the current drops below the drop-out value. This typically is a few tens of milliseconds. Not a problem for starter relays. But in other applications, this can be a severe effect, and then MOVs or series capacitor/resistor combinations are used which cause the drop out to be much faster. Regards, Charles R. Patton