Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.6) with ESMTP id 1123858 for rob@logan.com; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 06:23:08 -0500 Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.36]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 02:57:24 -0500 Received: from StarAerospace@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id k.fb.2251192f (16785) for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 02:58:48 -0500 (EST) From: StarAerospace@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 02:58:47 EST Subject: Mach limits and manufacuring tolerances To: lancair.list@olsusa.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> I got a couple of questions on my last post and thought the answers might be useful to everyone planning to go high and fast. << ... but why is the percentage of the speed of sound the true structural limit for an aircraft? >> I didn't quite put it that way, sorry for the misunderstanding. The Mmo of an aircraft is typically a given percentage of its controllable Mach limit speed. As you near the aircraft's Mach limit, a supersonic "bubble" of flow forms as the air is accelerated over the airfoils. The higher the thickness to chord ratio, the lower the Mach number at which this occurs. This bubble collapses in the pressure recovery region in a shock wave that disrupts the boundary layer behind it. As you go faster, the velocity in the bubble increases and the shock becomes strong enough to cause boundary layer separation. If (when) this separation blankets a control surface, loss of control in that axis can result regardless of the dynamic pressure. This separation can also be unstable and cause oscillations in the control surfaces leading to failure at well below Vne. The early 20 and 30 series Lear Jets were infamous for Mach overspeed shock induced separation causing rapid oscillations in the ailerons which led to aileron failure and abrupt departure from controlled flight. Often, the last thing ATC heard was the aircraft flipping over hard enough to key the mic with each tumble... So Mach is more of an aerodynamic stability and control limit; although going divergent in any axis can lead to structural overload even at less than Vne IAS. Vne has always been general aviation's limit metric because we tend to not fly too high or fast in our Cessnas to worry about Mach. Now that we have Lancairs that have half the drag of a 182 and 2 to 4 times the power, we have a problem. Hollman has actually admitted that he has a range of flutter limits for the Lancair depending on which codes he uses and which layup schedules he assumes. The range is quite broad, from over 360 KIAS to lower than most have already flown! << How would you recommend to actually measure the shape of the completed IV wing in order to make aerodynamic improvements (longer laminar flow?)? We are now at that stage. In other words what are the priorities in wing shape? >> How to guarantee your wing is accurate? Jeez, no offense here but we're talking about one-off wood assembly tooling, hand carved ribs, slop layup flanges, and a blind closeout with no control of the bondline displacement or thickness. 10% variance is pretty good. The only thing I can recommend is to take an accurate plot of the airfoils off the plans, laser level the tooling, cut your ribs accurately, do a practice section closeout to find the actual bond line thickness, repeat it all at each rib so that they are all the same, etc.; do everything possible to drive that manufacturing tolerance down to 2 or 3%. It takes machined tooling to do it right to 1%. Hand laid up and finished plugs, splash tooling, hand cut ribs, etc., just doesn't lend itself to manufacturing accuracy. Unless the ribs have premolded flanges and everything comes out of CNC gantry milled tooling and is made to the kind of tolerance that the Thunder Mustang, Nemesis NXT, and others (including us) have or will use, its simply a crap shoot. On the plus side, the original Lancair IV design was radically overbuilt for the limited power available. Now that power is being introduced to push the limits of the design, we need to know where each aircraft stands in that wide range of manufacturing tolerance. It would be easier and cheaper to machine new tooling to insure accuracy than it would be to try to measure an already built wing. I had planned some aerodynamic improvements to the Lancair IV, there are three obvious areas that create about 90% of the available drag reduction. 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