Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5b3) with ESMTP id 847557 for rob@logan.com; Tue, 07 Aug 2001 03:15:58 -0400 Received: from trixie.carlsonhome.com ([24.5.200.224]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2001 01:48:01 -0400 Received: from speed (192.168.0.5) by trixie.carlsonhome.com (Worldmail 1.3.167) for lancair.list@olsusa.com; 6 Aug 2001 22:57:52 -0700 From: "Jon Carlson" To: Subject: Re: Fw: Flight Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 22:57:51 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20010807043148.AAA25465@pop3.olsusa.com> X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> What I don't agree with is: 1. Making airworthy decisions based on insurance rates. 2. Insulting people who disagree with an opinion. << Hi Curtis, I agree with #2 also, and in fact have to give a mea culpa/apology - after I sent my post I wished I had toned down a few of the words I used to describe my personal reaction to the original story. Sometimes email doesn't afford us the best means for tempering words with other expression, and words that could be spoken in person in a way that doesn't offend can't always be typed. For that I'm sorry to anyone who may have been offended. While I agree with #1 above in the literal sense as stated, I don't agree in a broader sense. We live and operate in a world filled with other people. Like it or not, our actions are judged by others with 20/20 hindsight, and the bad consequences of the ill-chosen actions have repercussions on our fellow flyers. So, while I'm glad the flight in question turned out OK, I'm somewhat dismayed to hear that it was taken on. I'm dismayed on two counts: A) from a "noble" standpoint - I really don't want fellow pilots to come to harm and it sure sounds on the face of it that he put himself in harm's way - a big "whew" that it worked out OK, and B) from a selfish standpoint - I don't like the fact that bad decisions by a few can make the rest of us pilots look bad in a world that's often only marginally tolerant of us anyway. Insurance rates can be used as one concrete example of the broader issue that other people judge us in groups, like it or not, and those people sometimes make decisions that affect our ability to fly. Bad decision making needs discouragement. Yes, I'm a 1000 miles away and don't know the situation firsthand, but without some kind of severe mitigating circumstance (none was described), flying an airplane that is in the condition described sounds to me like a bad decision. To say nothing about it seems to me like another bad decision - I'm glad Jeff Edwards said something. -Jon C. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>