You dasn't ever want to run straight H2O in
your cooling system.
I just went out to the shop and checked a container
label for engine coolant (Wal-Mart variety). Sez boiling point for 50/50 mixture
with H2O is 265 deg.F.
Put a 16 psi cap on that and it goes up some
more.
If coolant and lubricant failure are the
criteria for establishing redline temps, my post of the other day is valid.
I think 210-220 degree temps should be good running
temps, not redlines. Modern (Post model A) engines run more efficiently at those
temperatures.
But I'd still like to hear an opinion from a 13b
authority or two if there are other criteria for coolant and oil temperature
limits.
FWIW, again,
Jack Ford
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 4:18 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 11th test
flight
Steve Brooks wrote:
I made a test flight today with the new scoop, but also wit cooler OAT (70F)
than I've seen in the last couple weeks. I flew for 6 tenths of an hour
with temperatures for the oil at 207 and coolant 200 stabilized at 4700
RPMs. I increased the throttle to 5300 RPMs and the coolant stayed put, and
the oil increased by only 3 degrees. I was about 1500 AGL for the entire
flight. I did descend a few hundred feet and climb a few hundred feet to
watch the temperatures, but usually was flying a level circle around the
airport. I reduced the throttle to 4300, and maintained level flight at
about 105 kts. Oil dropped to 195 and coolant to 190.
I guess that the good news is the I could fly all day at those temperatures,
and I never saw any temperatures higher than 210, though I really didn't do
an extended climb. I really didn't push level cruise higher than 5300 (135
kts), but the temperatures seemed to be holding, and actually the oil
dropped a degree after letting it stabilize a couple of minutes.
The bad news is that the scoop appears to be costing me about 10 kts, which
I was expecting. I also don't have any wheel pants yet on the main gear, so
it's not like I'm out to win any speed test at this point anyways. My oil
continues to run higher than the coolant which indicates to me that I need
to do some more baffling to divert more air to the oil cooler.
I also have not done any filling or finishing to the scoop, so it's surface
is more like sandpaper right now. Finishing it will probably improve air
flow some more, and also reduce some of the drag. I left the scoop on the
plane for now, so that I can hopefully get another flight in tomorrow
morning. My plan tomorrow is to climb up to 5000' and see what I get there.
Then I'll remove the scoop, which takes about 5 minutes, and bring it home
for some filling and sanding. And after a few more flights, and more
filling and sanding, some primer and paint.
I am still looking at this as a "hot weather scoop". My plan is to remove
it during cool weather, and re-install it for June-August. I mount the
scoop using 6 10-32 SS screws into nutplates embedded in the landing gear
cover, plus 2 of the screws that mount the landing gear cover to the
fuselage. It's not likely to come off on its own.
Steve Brooks
Cozy MKIV
Turbo Rotary - 6.3 hours and counting
Steve ... re: the above underlined.
I would
say that what you have is just fine regarding your oil temp. Remember
that the "delta T" between where you are running and the temperature at where
it quits working is quite high. Especially if you are using synthetic
oil. Molbil I keeps lubricating quite well up past 400 degrees and
beyond. Thus, if you are running temps near 200 degrees you
have near a 200 degree temp spread (delta T) between what the oil can take
away and what it IS taking away in BTU's of heat dissipation in a stable
system. That is a pretty fat safety margin, when you figure
you can run 100 degrees hotter than what you are now and still have 100
degrees left before lubrication failure is imminent. Obviously, lower is
better.
Water cooling now is a different story. operating
coolant at temps near 200 while water boils at 212 ... gives you a delta T of
just 12 degrees to play with. I know you can kick it up by
anti-freeze, pressure on the system, etc. etc. but the bottom line
is that you have a lot narrower delta T range to deal with, and you are always
working the system a lot closer to near it's maximum potential for heat
dissipation.
Just a thought,
Dale
Smith
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