Return-Path: Received: from mail.tsisp.com ([65.23.108.44] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b6) with ESMTP-TLS id 300291 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 07:03:28 -0400 Received: from stevehome by mail.tsisp.com (Technical Support Inc.) with SMTP id CQA74584 for ; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 07:02:58 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Steve Brooks" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Turbo post mortem Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 07:04:37 -0400 Message-ID: <016c01c465a4$87389210$6400a8c0@WORKGROUP.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Ed, After recent events, I've been looking at T04 turbo's but I really don't know what the A/r ratio is, or what are the advantages to a low ratio vs. a high ratio. I also noticed that most of those turbos are only oil cooled, while the stock turbo has both oil and water feeds to it. I would think that for aircraft use, you would need water cooling as well. Steve Brooks -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ed Anderson Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 6:30 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Turbo post mortem If he is using the stock Mazda turbocharger, I believe he can get that kind of boost at altitude. The stock turbine out-let area is really inadequate for the amount of exhaust gas mass flow you can get at WOT. They have had continuos problems with boost creep on the Rx-7 (at least some model years) due to this. So with the effective A/r of the turbo that small, 38" is probably attainable where it wouldn't be with a turbine housing sized for aircraft use. I personally believe getting the stock turbo modified as offered by the Aussies at this URL overcomes some of the limitations of the stock turbo for aircraft use as I see them. Of course going to some of the T4/T3 series turbos can do the same as they have turbine housings with A/rs ranging from around 0.4 to over 1.2. http://www.turbonetics.com.au/ATS_p&s_12a_13b.htm Ed Ed Anderson RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael D. Callahan" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 1:14 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Turbo post mortem > Hard to put out 38" at 11.5K with the gate wide open;-) I want an intake > like HIS if he can do that! Mike C. > > > > That doesn't sound right. How big is the wastegate, and what style (ie, > > throttle plate or Delta-gate (or Race-gate)? With the wastegate fully > open > > the majority of the exhaust should be bypassing the turbo. Or am I > > misunderstanding your comment? WOuldn't be the first time. > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html