Return-Path: Received: from mxsf27.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.227] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b6) with ESMTP id 247184 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 07 Jul 2004 23:25:56 -0400 Received: from mxip06.cluster1.charter.net (mxip06a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.136]) by mxsf27.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i683S1XX021176 for ; Wed, 7 Jul 2004 23:28:01 -0400 Received: from 68-189-49-127.ca.charter.com (HELO [10.0.1.2]) (68.189.49.127) by mxip06.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 07 Jul 2004 23:25:26 -0400 X-Ironport-AV: i="3.81R,155,1083556800"; d="scan'208"; a="90670904:sNHT24430736" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9--719231405 Message-Id: <6F856DA0-D08E-11D8-9999-0003930BF7DE@charter.net> From: kelseyjewett Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: ACRE - Paul Lamar Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 20:25:18 -0700 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) --Apple-Mail-9--719231405 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Thank you Kelsey On Jul 7, 2004, at 7:21 PM, John Slade wrote: > Kelsey, > Before you head over there, let me=A0give you the other side of this=20= > perspective.... > =A0 > >He is without doubt a talented engineer and has others who also=20 > contribute regularly.=A0=A0=A0 > Personally, I would remove the word talented and insert "opinionated"=20= > and last time I looked,=A0many of the "others" have given up trying to=20= > argue with him. > =A0 > Look at the track record: > PL said [many times] that Electric Water pumps cant work for flying=20 > rotary engines- disproved by Todd and others. > PL said [many times] you can't cool a rotary with a NACA scoop -=20 > disproved by me > PL makes=A0sells [expensive] intake castings. My welder said it would=20= > have been easier (and cheaper) to start from scratch > PL says Conversion Concepts mounts are dangerous, but people are=20 > flying them fine. > PL sponsors an engine mount design that=A0other engineers say is=20 > dangerous. > PL has never built and flown any of his own theories. > =A0 > >I think that everyone here should at least evaluate the info=20 > presented on ACRE for their own edification.=A0 > True - there are occasional =A0nuggets of valuable information there.=20= > But treat most of what you read there with a "pinch of salt"=20 > especially if PL is backing it. Don't get me wrong - I have nothing=20 > personal against PL (other than his rude behavior in heckling Ed's=20 > excellent presentation at Shady Bend last year), but I do get worried=20= > when he suppresses comments that disagree with his own beliefs or=20 > agenda. He gets so adamant that it's tempting to think he knows what=20= > he's talking about. The evidence would tend to prove otherwise. > =A0 > Just my 2c. > John Slade > =A0 > =A0 > =A0 > =A0 --Apple-Mail-9--719231405 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thank you Kelsey On Jul 7, 2004, at 7:21 PM, John Slade wrote: 0000,0000,FFFFKelsey, 0000,0000,FFFF Before you head over there, let me=A0give you the other side of this perspective.... =A0 >He is without doubt a talented engineer and has others who also contribute = regularly.=A0=A0Arial0000,0000,FF= FF=A0 0000,0000,FFFFPersonally, I would remove the word talented and insert "opinionated" and last time I looked,=A0many of the "others" have given up trying to argue with him. 0000,0000,FFFF =A0 0000,0000,FFFFLook at the track record: 0000,0000,FFFFPL said [many times] that Electric Water pumps cant work for flying rotary engines- disproved by Todd and others. 0000,0000,FFFF PL said [many times] you can't cool a rotary with a NACA scoop - disproved by me 0000,0000,FFFFPL makes=A0sells [expensive] intake castings. My welder said it would have been easier (and cheaper) to start from scratch 0000,0000,FFFFPL says Conversion Concepts mounts are dangerous, but people are flying them fine. 0000,0000,FFFFPL sponsors an engine mount design that=A0other engineers say is dangerous. 0000,0000,FFFFPL has never built and flown any of his own theories. =A0 >I think that everyone here should at least evaluate the info presented on ACRE for their own = edification.Arial0000,0000,FFFF=A0 0000,0000,FFFFTrue - there are occasional =A00000,0000,FFFFnuggets of valuable information there. But treat most of what you read there with a "pinch of salt" especially if PL is backing it. Don't get me wrong - I have nothing personal against PL (other than his rude behavior in heckling Ed's excellent presentation at Shady Bend last year), but I do get worried when he suppresses comments that disagree with his own beliefs or agenda. He gets so adamant that it's tempting to think he knows what he's talking about. The evidence would tend to prove = otherwise. =A0 0000,0000,FFFFJust my 2c. 0000,0000,FFFFJohn Slade =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = --Apple-Mail-9--719231405--